I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA (Destiny)
Wins is a good metric. You also want to be wary of statistical artifacts. Back when I played WoT, the player balance in game suppressed the russian tank stats, so they constantly got buffs or had their most OP tanks left alone. The US tanks, with their 5% of the overall population, had major over representation in the stats and were always getting nerfs to their already tough play styles.
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2017-02-08, 15:26
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Beorn,
2017-02-08, 15:57
- They nerfed everything. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 15:59
- They nerfed everything. - nico, 2017-02-09, 03:17
- Some Raw Weapon Stats: - CyberKN, 2017-02-08, 16:16
- RIP shotguns, sidearm is the new Meta -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:25
- Sidearm really will be the new Meta -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:55
- NLB + Sidearm will continue to be a great load out :) -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 17:03
- NLB + Sidearm will continue to be a great load out :)
- Also: 20%damage buff in PvE, to make up for no crits -
CyberKN,
2017-02-08, 21:16
- Thx, was wondering about that -
stabbim,
2017-02-09, 03:38
- Thx, was wondering about that
- Just Got UR In A Drop. Sign? -
Morpheus,
2017-02-09, 15:25
- Correction - unoudid, 2017-02-09, 15:27
- Sidearm really will be the new Meta
- Pulse Changes: - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:31
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. -
CyberKN,
2017-02-08, 16:32
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. - Korny, 2017-02-08, 17:11
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. -
Claude Errera,
2017-02-08, 18:57
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. - stabbim, 2017-02-08, 19:09
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-08, 19:24
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
stabbim,
2017-02-08, 19:38
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 19:50
- The TTK is higher than it was, it's quicker to use others -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:56
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... - stabbim, 2017-02-08, 20:10
- The TTK is higher than it was, it's quicker to use others
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 19:50
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
stabbim,
2017-02-08, 19:38
- Changes to Assault Rifles -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:34
- Time for field scout vanquisher to come out of the vault! -
Funkmon,
2017-02-08, 18:28
- LOL. Forgot they nerfed Field Scout. Nevermind. -
Funkmon,
2017-02-08, 18:28
- LOL. Forgot they nerfed Field Scout. Nevermind.
- Time for field scout vanquisher to come out of the vault!
- Changes to Hand Cannons - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:40
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) -
CyberKN,
2017-02-08, 16:41
- Includes Elimination -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:44
- Includes Elimination - Cody Miller, 2017-02-08, 18:41
- Clarification: Both teams lose it. - CyberKN, 2017-02-08, 21:47
- 60 second respawn timer on special crates -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:51
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 17:07
- They always nerf fusions TBH -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 17:09
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) - bluerunner, 2017-02-08, 19:16
- They always nerf fusions TBH
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) -
Robot Chickens,
2017-02-08, 17:15
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) - Kahzgul, 2017-02-09, 06:42
- Bad choice -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 17:59
- Bad choice -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:18
- Bad choice -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 18:37
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-02-08, 18:43
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 22:18
- Truth. =) -
slycrel,
2017-02-09, 13:49
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. - stabbim, 2017-02-09, 15:22
- Truth. =)
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 22:18
- I agree. The future looks bleak. - Funkmon, 2017-02-08, 22:17
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-02-08, 18:43
- Bad choice -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 18:37
- Bad choice - ShadowDancing, 2017-02-08, 21:06
- Bad choice -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:18
- Oh Dear Lord. -
Morpheus,
2017-02-08, 18:18
- Rescue mag is now god tier -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-09, 06:42
- Includes Elimination -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:44
- Hunter Changes -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:46
- Hunter Changes - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:59
- Hunter Changes - Cody Miller, 2017-02-08, 18:31
- Warlock Changes: -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:47
- Unclear On What That Means. -
Morpheus,
2017-02-08, 18:19
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 18:49
- Unclear On What That Means. -
bluerunner,
2017-02-08, 19:20
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:32
- Unclear On What That Means. - BeardFade, 2017-02-08, 19:54
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:32
- Unclear On What That Means. -
bluerunner,
2017-02-08, 19:20
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 18:49
- Unclear On What That Means.
- Titan Changes: -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:48
- Titan Changes: - BeardFade, 2017-02-08, 19:55
- BNG Staff looks like they are really bad at PvP -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:53
- Deej was pretty bad for the DBO Bungie Bounty -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:55
- This is painful to watch -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:57
- Ok... Watching them play... -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 17:00
- Ok... Watching them play... -
Robot Chickens,
2017-02-08, 17:06
- Ok... Watching them play... - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 17:10
- play-testing isn't skill based -
kidtsunami,
2017-02-08, 17:41
- There are some - Beorn, 2017-02-08, 18:05
- One GREAT thing 343 did... -
breitzen,
2017-02-09, 13:53
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Korny,
2017-02-09, 14:37
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:59
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-09, 17:06
- I feel very strongly that you're wrong - kidtsunami, 2017-02-09, 15:16
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... - Durandal, 2017-02-09, 18:03
- It's definitely not one of my favourite things. - Funkmon, 2017-02-09, 18:04
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... - breitzen, 2017-02-10, 19:42
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:59
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Korny,
2017-02-09, 14:37
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 20:22
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) - stabbim, 2017-02-08, 20:59
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 21:05
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-08, 22:06
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-02-09, 12:15
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 13:21
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 13:24
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:10
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 15:15
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 15:20
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 16:31
- I'm with Cody here - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:48
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 16:31
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 15:20
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 15:15
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:10
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-09, 13:43
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 13:24
- Absolutely. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-09, 13:34
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 13:21
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-09, 17:10
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 17:24
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Durandal,
2017-02-09, 18:05
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-09, 19:34
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:37
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-09, 19:34
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 05:59
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Durandal,
2017-02-09, 18:05
- If I am an expert noob, can I have a job? -
Funkmon,
2017-02-09, 17:58
- If I am an expert noob, can I have a job? - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:09
- I believe you are "in error where the truth is involved." -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-09, 17:59
- I believe speculation is exactly that. - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:24
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 17:24
- Ok... Watching them play... -
Robot Chickens,
2017-02-08, 17:06
- This is painful to watch
- Deej was pretty bad for the DBO Bungie Bounty -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:55
- Exotic changes: (not finished) - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:59
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 17:00
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 17:21
- Maybe teams with sunsingers? -
kidtsunami,
2017-02-08, 17:41
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 17:43
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:17
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:07
- Artifact's untouched - ShadowDancing, 2017-02-08, 21:12
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:07
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:17
- Artifact's untouched - Funkmon, 2017-02-08, 22:22
- Maybe teams with sunsingers?
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 17:21
- Lol. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-02-08, 18:22
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