Client-Server != DRM

by Dean Hofmeyer (unhh) , Warsaw, IN, Friday, March 22, 2013, 17:45 (4050 days ago) @ Cody Miller

I think the point where we diverge on this may be your interesting definition of DRM. Could you give me a few examples of things other than piracy that are addressed by DRM in a non-subscription-based game? I'm not sure I'm clear where you're coming from with that aspect of your argumentation.

Blizzard wants very fine control over how SC2 is played (so they get the entire piece of the E-sports pie this time around). Everything related to Battle.net 2.0 is geared towards them controlling the e-sports experience, to the point where there's no LAN, and if you want to host any sort of tournament whatsoever, you need to register with them first.

KESPA had legal copies of Brood War, but they were able to cut blizzard out because of LAN. Not so anymore.

We found the issue. I don't consider things like that DRM, you do.

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Always online does not equal DRM - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:33
- Always online does not equal DRM - katancik, 2013-03-20, 20:40
  - This - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:43
    - This - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-03-20, 21:25
      - Marked. - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 21:26
      - This - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 22:33
        
        What about roads? - Ragashingo, 2013-03-20, 22:45
        
        What about roads? - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 23:45
        
        Roads? Where we're going, we won't need roads... - thebruce, 2013-03-21, 06:35
- I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:17
  - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:26
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:46
      - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:47
      - I believe it does - MrPadraig08, 2013-03-21, 07:41
  - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 01:35
    - Good points - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 01:37
      - Good points - Malagate, 2013-03-21, 05:08
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 07:06
        
        Good points - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 11:44
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 14:25
    - I believe it doesn't - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 12:30
      - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 15:41
    - I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:48
      - I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 23:54
        
        I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:04
        
        I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-23, 13:31
      - I believe it doesn't - thebruce, 2013-03-22, 06:36
  - Exhibit A: Banned Consoles - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:40
  - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:56
    - Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 08:58
      - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 09:12
        
        Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 09:26
  - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:35
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:20
      - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:37
- Except that it does. - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:42
  - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 01:59
    - Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 09:51
      - Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 09:59
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - uberfoop, 2013-03-22, 10:11
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Schooly D, 2013-03-22, 11:00
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 11:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 11:32
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:11
      - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 10:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 12:12
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 14:36
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 16:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 16:50
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 17:45
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Hoovaloov, 2013-03-23, 05:04
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Leisandir, 2013-03-23, 06:23
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-23, 10:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 19:47
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Xenos, 2013-03-24, 19:54
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-24, 20:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 21:46
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 16:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:49
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-24, 17:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:19
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:06
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-22, 15:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:44
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 17:07
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 22:17
  - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:05
    - Always online does not equal DRM - thebruce, 2013-03-25, 07:33
    - Always online does not equal DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-25, 08:11
      - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:12
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 10:06
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 10:29
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 14:12
        
        Oh, my - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 19:40
        
        Excellent question! - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 20:45
        
        Thank you - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 21:01
        
        Agreed - Xenos, 2013-03-25, 21:14
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 07:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-26, 08:08
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 08:28
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-26, 09:22
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 10:19
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:34
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 11:35
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Ragashingo, 2013-03-26, 14:15
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-27, 10:10
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Claude Errera, 2013-03-27, 17:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:46
        
        Winner! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-28, 08:04
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - General Vagueness, 2013-03-28, 17:46
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 18:11
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 09:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:56
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Xenos, 2013-03-26, 13:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 13:28
        
        Incentive - RC, 2013-03-27, 13:05
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-25, 16:04
- EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 01:48
  - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 01:50
    - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:43
      - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 02:50
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 03:46
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 04:17

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