Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. (Destiny)
...sigh. Salty post incoming...
Before you say my connection must stink, I get 50 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up (and I checked many times last night because of the reasons I'm about to enumerate).
Not discounting your frustrations here (I feel your pain) but just because you have a good connection, that doesn't mean the other players in the match have good connections. The problems you described sound exactly like the symptoms of playing against opponents who are suffering from packet loss, slow upload connections, or both.
Basically, if a player has a poor connection, it can make it difficult for him/her to update the host with accurate information about where exactly they are, and what exactly they're doing. So a player might rush at you and hit you with a shotgun, but their poor internet causes a gap where you don't actually see it happen because the host literally doesn't know these actions have happened yet. Then the connection kicks in again, and the host gets an update and realizes "oh, they've actually moved 3 feet and pulled the trigger twice" and adjusts.
Side-rant:
Ever since playing the Alpha, I've wondered if Bungie is using the tech that powered Halo's theater mode as some kind of "lag compensator" during Destiny PvP matches. The theater mode runs on what is essentially a data log of every single player input and game calculation that happens during a match. When you load a "saved film", that log is being loaded back into the game, so the engine can recreate every single thing that happened in real time.
In Destiny, I see lots of situations where I see my bullets hit a guy, but he doesn't die. In the meantime, he kills me. Then a split second later, he drops dead and I score the points. In Halo, this wouldn't happen. If there was lag that prevented my kill from registering with the host, I was SOL. But in Destiny, I think the host constantly checks it's "theater log" against each player's log and looks for discrepancies. When it sees that my log shows I aimed at a target and did enough damage to score a kill, it updates the host log and makes the adjustment a split second later, hence the delay.
Complete thread:
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 14:37
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 14:52
- In my opinion, it's a superior method. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-30, 15:00
- It's worth it for the hilarious lag-induced failures, imo. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 15:03
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - DreadPirateWes, 2015-04-30, 15:10
- In my opinion, it's a superior method. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-30, 15:00
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 15:03
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 15:21
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 15:35
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:43
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 17:00
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 17:20
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too - Xenos, 2015-04-30, 17:27
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 17:20
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 17:00
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:43
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-30, 16:36
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 16:41
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:51
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-30, 17:42
- That was good gif. - Funkmon, 2015-04-30, 18:00
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-30, 17:42
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. - DiscipleN2k, 2015-04-30, 19:28
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:51
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 16:41
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 15:35
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 15:21
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
petetheduck,
2015-04-30, 15:38
- Agree, very frustrating. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-04-30, 15:43
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:35
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:56
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:57
- only 3 ranks. what IB should be - Raflection, 2015-04-30, 21:04
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks - Ragashingo, 2015-04-30, 16:59
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks - Xenos, 2015-04-30, 17:05
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:57
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:56
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner since before it existed - stabbim, 2015-04-30, 23:39
- I don't think it's you, it's them -
BeardFade,
2015-04-30, 16:21
- I blame the lag switching exploits I don't understand. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 16:22
- I don't think it's you, it's them -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-30, 16:22
- We've all been there. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 16:25
- Heh. I went and sailed Black Flag's lagless seas! :p -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 17:00
- I was just thinking about Black Flag yesterday... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-30, 17:09
- Maniacal laughter is fun!!!!! -
Up North 65,
2015-04-30, 19:11
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:19
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
Up North 65,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- You aren't the worst I've seen. - unoudid, 2015-04-30, 20:10
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
Up North 65,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- Are you kidding me?! - Dagoonite, 2015-04-30, 19:56
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:19
- I don't think it's you, it's them - CaneCutter, 2015-04-30, 17:49
- Case in point -
BeardFade,
2015-04-30, 23:18
- But I'm on PS4 - Kahzgul, 2015-05-01, 01:46
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:59
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-30, 17:17
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 17:24
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
stabbim,
2015-04-30, 17:35
- Found the problem. - Funkmon, 2015-04-30, 18:02
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night - unoudid, 2015-04-30, 18:12
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
stabbim,
2015-04-30, 17:35
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 17:24
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-30, 17:17
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
stabbim,
2015-04-30, 17:34
- 16 ms ping, 0 packet loss -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- 16 ms ping, 0 packet loss - stabbim, 2015-04-30, 23:36
- 16 ms ping, 0 packet loss -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
red robber,
2015-04-30, 18:20
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 18:21
- One Word - red robber, 2015-04-30, 18:25
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
ZackDark,
2015-04-30, 18:54
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:12
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 21:50
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 21:55
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 22:06
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-30, 23:50
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 22:43
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. - CyberKN, 2015-05-01, 04:39
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 22:06
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 21:55
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 21:50
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:12
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 18:21
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:22
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:26
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 19:56
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:57
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:59
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:05
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 20:09
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 20:33
- Different argument. *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 20:34
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:37
- I actually agree too. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 20:38
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:37
- Different argument. *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 20:34
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - Kahzgul, 2015-05-01, 01:49
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:05
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:59
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:57
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 19:56
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
ZackDark,
2015-04-30, 20:19
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 20:44
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - ZackDark, 2015-04-30, 21:37
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
red robber,
2015-04-30, 21:18
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - ZackDark, 2015-04-30, 21:28
- I'd be so happy if we both died - Kahzgul, 2015-05-01, 01:51
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 20:44
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:26
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 14:52