Not sure what kind of balance you'd want for that. (Destiny)

by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Saturday, October 03, 2015, 13:16 (3121 days ago) @ narcogen

What exactly is a Defender supposed to do in PVP in general, aside from the objective gametypes? I could see the value of it in Zone Control or Salvage... but Mayhem? What good could it possibly be? How could it be fixed by balance except by nerfing everybody else's super to be just as useless as the Defender's?

You could make the Bubble take four golden gun shots to put down instead of two.

I don't see how that helps. Presumably that won't affect anyone wearing Celestial Nighthawk, or anyone spec'd for a fourth short, but it's just a cheap "gotcha" for anyone who goes in spec'd for something different.

No. My fully defensive Super is not a cheap gotcha. It is a Super! When used right it, like other Supers, should give me a fighting chance against anything and everything. I'm fine with the bubble breaking to people who have chosen longer / more powerful supers because they do so at the expense of something else. Right now Ward of Dawn is simply outclassed. Unfairly so. Game breakingly so.

The bubble's good against certain things, but not others... why this in particular? How often are you actually going to see a charged gunslinger coming just in time to drop a bubble, but before he shoots?

Terrible question. For two reasons. 1. Most of the time I know there is a Golden Gun or Hammer of Sol active on the map based on the unique, distinct power up sounds, based on the kill feed, and based on fire team chatter. Am I surprised sometimes? Sure! But it's very rare. 2. And being surprised is not the issue here, of course I should lose when surprised. That's the same whether I'm in melee combat, gun combat, or Super combat.

The issue here is one Subclass being all around massively weaker in the Crucible than all the others.