DBO Forums - No problem, it's really nice!! https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/ Bungie.Org talks Destiny en No problem, it's really nice!! (reply) I just posted something about Fallen facial structure if interested btw!

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124757 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124757 Fri, 18 Nov 2016 06:35:02 +0000 Destinyskylercriwall
Thanks! :) (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124753 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124753 Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:17:14 +0000 DestinyRagashingo Thanks! (reply)

I just read through all of your posts starting with the first. These are great! Thank you for making these and I'm looking forward to the progress.

This is the first time I've actually been excited about the Destiny story line.

Makes my day when new people find and enjoy this. :)

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124751 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124751 Thu, 17 Nov 2016 22:52:16 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Oooooh~ (reply) This is super nice!

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124746 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124746 Thu, 17 Nov 2016 20:57:11 +0000 Destinyskylercriwall
Bite-sized Backstory 12: War on Life (reply) I just read through all of your posts starting with the first. These are great! Thank you for making these and I'm looking forward to the progress.

This is the first time I've actually been excited about the Destiny story line.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124738 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124738 Wed, 16 Nov 2016 23:15:16 +0000 DestinyManKitten
+1 for those of us too lazy to do the work ourselves (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124737 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124737 Wed, 16 Nov 2016 22:57:23 +0000 Destinyunoudid +1 (reply) I seriously love these, man! Lots of stuff that I missed while reading through the grimoire. Thanks for putting these together!

-Disciple

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124735 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124735 Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:02:38 +0000 DestinyDiscipleN2k
Thanks! (reply)

I completely missed the part about the Qugu.

I'm still confused about the throne worlds and the reincarnation in those worlds. Do these exist in another dimension?

And in KF raid, did we actually kill Oryx? Or just send him back to the throne world, to come to life again?

Note that we had to kill both Crota and Oryx twice. For Crota it was very clear that we killed him in his throne world. But, recall that the very first thing we do in King's Fall is open and pass through the Court of Oryx portal. We'll get to some specifics here pretty soon, but the important part is that nearly all of King's Fall took place within Oryx's throne world. So, his second death was his last. (Well... maybe... We'll get to that too!)


Is the critical-hit spot in his chest actually the worm?

Almost certainly! But the interesting question there is who killed who. Did we kill Oryx? The worm? Both? Neither?! There's some evidence to help us here as well. :)

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124734 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124734 Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:04:43 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Thanks! (reply) I completely missed the part about the Qugu.

I'm still confused about the throne worlds and the reincarnation in those worlds. Do these exist in another dimension?

And in KF raid, did we actually kill Oryx? Or just send him back to the throne world, to come to life again?

Is the critical-hit spot in his chest actually the worm?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124732 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124732 Wed, 16 Nov 2016 19:49:13 +0000 DestinyOholiab
Bite-sized Backstory 12: War on Life [image]

After their defeat of the Ammonites, the Hive hollow out some or maybe even all of Fundament’s 52 moons turning them into giant spaceships capable of traveling to distant star systems. I wonder if this process looked anything like what Crota was doing to our moon?

For a very long time, the Hive’s fleet of moons travels through the cold dark between the stars. Interestingly, even though they are more or less immortal, the three murderous siblings still have practical concerns. At one point during the journey, Auryx openly wonders how he and his people will eat and breath, among other science facts. Fortunately his sister Savathûn tells him that he should really just relax.

She has been studying both the way the worm gods use wounds to travel and the way her brother returned after she had killed him. She has figured out not only how to travel bridge great distances with wounds but also how her and her siblings can return to their throne worlds without having to die first. Now, instead of being scattered across their moons with limited ways to communicate or share food or resources, the Hive now have the means to quickly and easily come together as a society united in the cause of challenging and destroying all those weaker than themselves.

Over the next 20,000 years, the Hive journey towards new star systems. During this time, Auryx, Savathûn, and Xivu Arath wage constant war against each other, each discovering and teach the others new aspects of their power and new ways to kill. They must have killed each other hundred or thousands of times over as they grew in power.

Finally, near the end of their long journey, Auryx declares to his siblings and his people that he is establishing a court called the High War. And along with this court he creates a series of rules for the Hive beneath him to learn the sword logic that has given him and his sisters such power. He also sets up a way for lower Hive to challenge him and take his position as the leader if they are able to defeat him. This is the beginning of what we will eventually know as the Court of Orxy. We’ll hear a bit more about this Court soon.

Interestingly, Savathûn also creates a court called the High Coven which likely has a similar function of teaching cunning and killing to those Hive seeking to gain the power of the sword logic. Oddly, Xivu Arath does not create a court and instead claims that her court exist anywhere there is war.

At last, the Hive have come across new species and begin destroying them just as they destroyed the Ammonites. Over the next hundred years the Hive obliterate at least (and likely many more than) 18 separate races including one called the Qugu which are said to protect four different solar systems.

Auryx finds the Qugu interesting because in some small way they are like the Hive in that they exist in symbiosis with another organism. Apparently, the Qugu evolved in such a way that even though they are now space faring, they still offer their limbs to enormous sessile (stationary) jaw-beasts. It’s actually a virus living within the Qugu that compels them to do this possibly horrific thing, but the relationship between the Qugu and the jaw-beasts seems to be mutually beneficial.

The jaw-beasts, which are treated like gods by the Qugu, reproduce through this strange, violent process and in return they produce some sort of nectar that give the Qugu brilliant visions. We aren’t told if these are visions like being drugged out or actual visions of new ideas and technologies and glimpses into the future. I kinda suspect it was the former but kinda hope it was the latter… because a violently symbolic culture driven forward by reality defying visions just seems darn cool to me.

Unfortunately for the Qugu, Savathûn liberates them from their jaw-beasts and indeed from existence. As she does so, Auryx takes the opportunity to vaporize his sister and some of her underlings to remind her to guard her flank. Normal physical death to Auryx and his sisters is, at this point, a game or teaching opportunity and not an actual threat to their wellbeing. It might not be comfortable for them to be forcibly returned to their throne worlds, but they’ve become so powerful that it is no huge setback for them anymore.

As the Hive continue destroying civilizations, Auryx muses about how he and his people are helping the universe find its final shape free of parasite civilizations that are not worthy enough or powerful enough to continue existing. At this point he has long since moved past his timidness and horror at being asked to destroy lives and species. Now, he feeds the hungry worm within him with entire worlds without so much as a second though.

Except… what would happen if he and his Hive came upon a culture that they were not able to defeat?

Sources:
XXI: an incision
XXII: The High War
XXIII: fire without fuel

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124706 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=124706 Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:56:22 +0000 DestinyRagashingo