DBO Forums - +10 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/ Bungie.Org talks Destiny en +10 (reply)

I just came across this. There were a lot of musical ties to the original trilogy that I missed. Plus the thing he discusses in the middle I will not be able to unhear.

I'm woefully uneducated about music, but this was fascinating, and makes me want to go back and watch some of these movies again.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131128 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131128 Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:02:32 +0000 Off-TopicClaude Errera
Cool! They named a magazine after me! (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131057 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131057 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:59:43 +0000 Off-TopicMacAddictXIV Yes (reply) You should be a LOT more excited at this stage. :p

Will we finally get another TIE Fighter-like "the Empire did nothing wrong" few missions?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131055 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131055 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:01:34 +0000 Off-TopicZackDark
+1 (reply) I would even go further and say they could have played it all off as "dark and gritty" and "the victors write the story" and "ONI was propaganding the SPARTAN project hard" (which, btw, H5's marketing hinted at very well, imo) and still succeed, if only they had consciously planned that from the start, as opposed to the seemingly half-baked ideas I perceive being throw at the universe from all directions.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131054 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131054 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:54:46 +0000 Off-TopicZackDark
Oh wow (reply) Also, that Dias Irae thing... yeah, can't unhear now

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131053 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131053 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:35:22 +0000 Off-TopicZackDark
Interesting (reply) Personally, I found the soundtrack too derivative. It sounded to me like he just copy-pasted star wars music everywhere throughout the film. Maybe it's because they were trying to separate the movie from the other star wars movies, but then they just directly re-used many of the themes from the original? Not sure, I just remember having moments during the movie where I was hung up on how bad the re-use of some of the original star wars music was. It completely distracted from my experience at times.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131052 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131052 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:30:39 +0000 Off-TopicBlackt1g3r
exxxxxxactly (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131051 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131051 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:20:24 +0000 Off-Topickidtsunami I don't believe in no-win scenarios. *Takes bite of apple* (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131050 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131050 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:15:24 +0000 Off-TopicRagashingo Adore this post. (reply) People that reply with dumb memes obviously aren't interested in actual conversation. On the other hand, it is a conversation that's been had a hundred times before on bungie.org, so it's probably a no-win scenario anyway.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131048 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131048 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:07:48 +0000 Off-TopiccheapLEY
+1 (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131046 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131046 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:58:01 +0000 Off-Topickidtsunami Adore this post. (reply)

You just said they tried continuing the mystery which was exactly my point and justifies my mentioning them. I didn't say they succeeded, but your 343 hatred is so strong even bringing them up as a negative example is somehow offensive to you.


I actually totally said regarding the Precursors, but keep sampling.


I still don't get it. I express skepticism that the Precursors can provide sufficient mystery. That's a false equivalency to my examples of sufficient mystery. Makes no sense.

As an aside, way to warp my words. I outright told Cody that no, another company probably couldn't. I did qualify it with the long-term statement, but my guarantee for said hypothetical studio was made in regards to how things would be run, how honest they would be, and how things wouldn't be as broken. That doesn't mean their Halo story wouldn't be total shit. That also doesn't mean that they'd do a 14-day buy and play or whatever they called the lie they made up, or that they'd sell a nearly completely unplayable multiplayer game (though campaign sorta kinda mostly worked during that time) and pretend it somehow magically never appeared in testing like that. And so on and so forth. SMH.


I'm not warping your words. This mythical "whatever studio" of yours doesn't exist--to guarantee it would do anything better than 343 is idiotic.


Take it to the bank. Guaranteed by the FDIC. In this universe, the next, and any other real or hypothetical.


i suspect you think being hyperbolic and unfair is funny instead of just mean-spirited.


The end result is the same either way, it makes whatever he has to say relatively uninteresting and not worthy of note.

I admit I'm responding to a history of hyperbolic, unfair criticisms of 343--that, and an apparent misunderstanding of what "false equivalence" means.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131044 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131044 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:53:24 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
Adore this post. (reply)

You just said they tried continuing the mystery which was exactly my point and justifies my mentioning them. I didn't say they succeeded, but your 343 hatred is so strong even bringing them up as a negative example is somehow offensive to you.


I actually totally said regarding the Precursors, but keep sampling.


I still don't get it. I express skepticism that the Precursors can provide sufficient mystery. That's a false equivalency to my examples of sufficient mystery. Makes no sense.

As an aside, way to warp my words. I outright told Cody that no, another company probably couldn't. I did qualify it with the long-term statement, but my guarantee for said hypothetical studio was made in regards to how things would be run, how honest they would be, and how things wouldn't be as broken. That doesn't mean their Halo story wouldn't be total shit. That also doesn't mean that they'd do a 14-day buy and play or whatever they called the lie they made up, or that they'd sell a nearly completely unplayable multiplayer game (though campaign sorta kinda mostly worked during that time) and pretend it somehow magically never appeared in testing like that. And so on and so forth. SMH.


I'm not warping your words. This mythical "whatever studio" of yours doesn't exist--to guarantee it would do anything better than 343 is idiotic.


Take it to the bank. Guaranteed by the FDIC. In this universe, the next, and any other real or hypothetical.


i suspect you think being hyperbolic and unfair is funny instead of just mean-spirited.

The end result is the same either way, it makes whatever he has to say relatively uninteresting and not worthy of note.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131043 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131043 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:36:23 +0000 Off-Topickidtsunami
Yeah but still (reply) You're right the execution wasn't as good. So when I say bad fan fiction, I consider the goal of the FF, primarily, and there can be good bad fan fiction and bad good fan fiction.

Therefore, Master of the Universe is bad fan fiction, despite being the most successful piece of fan fiction of all time, but All Roads Lead to Sol by S7N is good fan fiction despite not being very good.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131039 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131039 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:38:02 +0000 Off-TopicFunkmon
+10 (reply) That, more than anything else posted in this thread, makes me want to see Rogue One again.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131038 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131038 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:13:48 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
+10 (reply)

Rogue One is what good fan fiction should be. A story about bit players and how they did something important in the universe.


Clears up plot holes in the universe in a believable way? Check.
Develops existing supporting characters from a different perspective? Check.
Tells a contained story within an existing universe in a way that doesn't conflict with canon? Check.

Good fan fiction!

I just came across this. There were a lot of musical ties to the original trilogy that I missed. Plus the thing he discusses in the middle I will not be able to unhear.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131037 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131037 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:53:18 +0000 Off-Topicbluerunner
Exactly. Except the opposite. (reply)

I'm not saying that I disagree with that thesis, necessarily, but it did look weird to see RO labeled as "good FF" and TFA as "bad FF" when I found RO ponderous, lifeless and boring, and TFA, although more than a smidgen of it was slavish fanservice, was entertaining and enjoyable, for the most part.


I couldn't agree more. I can see an argument for Rogue One being a "better" movie and story, technically.

I can't. Didn't care about a single character in it. Conflicts thematically with the rest of the series, but does nothing interesting with that conflict. Put me to sleep.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131034 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131034 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:14:24 +0000 Off-Topicnarcogen
Adore this post. (reply)

You just said they tried continuing the mystery which was exactly my point and justifies my mentioning them. I didn't say they succeeded, but your 343 hatred is so strong even bringing them up as a negative example is somehow offensive to you.


I actually totally said regarding the Precursors, but keep sampling.

I still don't get it. I express skepticism that the Precursors can provide sufficient mystery. That's a false equivalency to my examples of sufficient mystery. Makes no sense.

As an aside, way to warp my words. I outright told Cody that no, another company probably couldn't. I did qualify it with the long-term statement, but my guarantee for said hypothetical studio was made in regards to how things would be run, how honest they would be, and how things wouldn't be as broken. That doesn't mean their Halo story wouldn't be total shit. That also doesn't mean that they'd do a 14-day buy and play or whatever they called the lie they made up, or that they'd sell a nearly completely unplayable multiplayer game (though campaign sorta kinda mostly worked during that time) and pretend it somehow magically never appeared in testing like that. And so on and so forth. SMH.


I'm not warping your words. This mythical "whatever studio" of yours doesn't exist--to guarantee it would do anything better than 343 is idiotic.


Take it to the bank. Guaranteed by the FDIC. In this universe, the next, and any other real or hypothetical.

i suspect you think being hyperbolic and unfair is funny instead of just mean-spirited.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131033 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131033 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:13:46 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
Adore this post. (reply)

You just said they tried continuing the mystery which was exactly my point and justifies my mentioning them. I didn't say they succeeded, but your 343 hatred is so strong even bringing them up as a negative example is somehow offensive to you.

I actually totally said regarding the Precursors, but keep sampling.

As an aside, way to warp my words. I outright told Cody that no, another company probably couldn't. I did qualify it with the long-term statement, but my guarantee for said hypothetical studio was made in regards to how things would be run, how honest they would be, and how things wouldn't be as broken. That doesn't mean their Halo story wouldn't be total shit. That also doesn't mean that they'd do a 14-day buy and play or whatever they called the lie they made up, or that they'd sell a nearly completely unplayable multiplayer game (though campaign sorta kinda mostly worked during that time) and pretend it somehow magically never appeared in testing like that. And so on and so forth. SMH.


I'm not warping your words. This mythical "whatever studio" of yours doesn't exist--to guarantee it would do anything better than 343 is idiotic.

Take it to the bank. Guaranteed by the FDIC. In this universe, the next, and any other real or hypothetical.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131032 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131032 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:02:30 +0000 Off-TopicAvateur
Adore this post. (reply)

You're a smart guy, so I don't understand how the mention of 343 drives you to sound like a nincompoop. You first say I'm making a false equivalency when I express skepticism about 343's efforts to maintain mystery in Halo. My skepticism is a false equivalency to what, exactly? Then you say "whatever studio" could do a better job with Halo than 343, which is a non-falsifiable statement, which you then guarantee! SMH.


What? Why are you making this about your skepticism? I'm making this about you bringing them up or using them as a comparison at all because it doesn't fit. The false equivalency has to do with bringing up 343 in regards to the Precursors. They alredy actually tried continuing the mystery (while at the same time doing everything in their power to destroy the mystery, go figure) with the Forerunner and whatever whack direction they were going to try to go with it, but it didn't pan out. At this point, they're on to another attempt at trying to make things work out. It doesn't jive with what you're saying because they've already tried and failed (in more ways than one, obviously).

You just said they tried continuing the mystery which was exactly my point and justifies my mentioning them. I didn't say they succeeded, but your 343 hatred is so strong even bringing them up as a negative example is somehow offensive to you.


As an aside, way to warp my words. I outright told Cody that no, another company probably couldn't. I did qualify it with the long-term statement, but my guarantee for said hypothetical studio was made in regards to how things would be run, how honest they would be, and how things wouldn't be as broken. That doesn't mean their Halo story wouldn't be total shit. That also doesn't mean that they'd do a 14-day buy and play or whatever they called the lie they made up, or that they'd sell a nearly completely unplayable multiplayer game (though campaign sorta kinda mostly worked during that time) and pretend it somehow magically never appeared in testing like that. And so on and so forth. SMH.

I'm not warping your words. This mythical "whatever studio" of yours doesn't exist--to guarantee it would do anything better than 343 is idiotic.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131031 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131031 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:38:53 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
Thank you. (reply)

They're just as guilty of basically all of 343i's sins throughout their time making Halo.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131029 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=131029 Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:09:54 +0000 Off-TopicAvateur