We tried just killing things as we came across them, but the lack of coordination hurt our time and we weren't getting the sword bearer to appear quickly enough. We switched it up to assign specific enemies to each team member, and that led to success.

Three guardians to a side, each team does the same thing on their side: One Guardian (Razelighter really helps here) kills the initial knight in the Hallway, then moves up to the tower to kill the knight there. The other two clear out the knights and thrall in the room at the top of the stairs and bridge, ready for the wizard. All three help with the wizard, with the two inside clearing everything else when it's downed (including the Shrieker).

The "Tower" Guardian stays in the tower waiting for the Scream - his job is to kill the three knights as they spawn at the top and then help as necessary. One of the two other Guardians uses his super to kill the Ogre on their side, and the other is cleanup (I think there's actually a third Ogre that this person helps deal with, but I'm not sure).

After several attempts, we finally pulled it off -- in 2:10:00. I'm really wondering how we're going to be able to knock those extra 10 seconds off our time for the record book...

Listen to Morpheous complain about how it can't be done, then do it anyway ;)

According to this a sunsinger can self res after the liturgy ends and still complete the challenge.

Last night the regular Wednesday night XBox crew ran through the Deathsinger Challenge twice with no issues; in fact we were only 2 seconds over 2 minutes. As discussed, the key to this seems to be to assign specific kills to the team. Razelighter is a huge help here to quickly dispatch the yellow-bar enemies.

Keep a person in each tower to deal with the three Knights that spawn there, have someone else with a super ready for the Ogres, and someone with a rocket launcher for the Wizard and Shrieker.

We had two warlocks on the team, so their job was to nova the yellow-bar knights in the beginning to ensure there were 12 orbs of light on the ground for everyone else. Two defender titans with blessing bubbles for safety, and two Golden Gun hunters that turned out to be critical. We discovered that a Celestial knighthawk Golden gun shot will immediately down Crota, so that meant that the two hunters and the runner could be the only ones involved in the Crota fight. The other 3 were on Oversoul and boomer/wizard duty.

After clearing the initial room, we went right. Defender titan popped a bubble at the corner at the top of the stairs for extra shielding. "Distraction bubbles" didn't seem to work anymore. The first sword-bearing guardian ran out and grabbed the chalice, then grabbed the sword. The rest of the fire team helped with the adds and sword-bearer kill. The sword runner then moved to the right-side position and let the hunters know he was starting their run to Crota. The hunters would watch his progress and drop Crota as the guardian got close. Crota seems to want to get up VERY quickly now. We were usually getting only two hits, three when we thought our timing was "perfect". At this point, the four guardians not involved in the second downing cleared the Oversoul (machine guns preferred). The second hunter would still be watching the sword bearer, who would have retreated to the right for safety, but starts his second rush as the Oversoul is still up. As he gets close, the second hunter drops Crota with a golden gun. We probably had 5 good slams per sword bearer.

We repeated this for the second cycle (with a new sword bearer). The hunters were not running the sword. After downing Crota two more times (another 5 slams), we pushed into the right side Ogre spawn and got up on the doors. We finished off the close Ogre, then the far Ogre with snipers, then moved back into position on the right side.

The third sword bearer was our last (and best runner). It was the same process - 3 guardians killing boomers, the wizard, and the Oversoul. One hunter ready to drop Crota for the first run (then focus on the Oversoul), and the second hunter ready for the second drop. The runner got in 3 hits and enraged Crota. At that point an errand wizard nearly wrecked us, but a final down and final 3 blows for success.

After someone picks up the Sword Bearer's sword, they're not allowed to pick it up again. They can drop it as needed (by switching weapons), but just like the Warpriest aura they can't be a sword runner again. This effectively means you need a different Guardian to run up and sword-slam Crota for each cycle where you're downing him.

Beware Sunsingers, if they die while holding the sword they CANNOT self-res & pickup the sword. We found that one out the hard way.

I did a little reading on Reddit, and found a few potentially relevant facts:

You can ignore the first Oversoul when downing Crota. Downing him a second time triggers another Oversoul that replaces the first if it's still present.

A Celestial Nighthawk golden gun can one-shot the Oversoul. We used it to down Crota, but you can flip it so all but one is focused on Crota.

There's a place of safety from the boomers at the back near the no-longer-accessible ledge (but this puts the sword runner at more risk).

Weapons of Light and Sunsinger Viking Funeral Grenades can increase the damage done by the sword.

We had 2 NightStalkers, 1 Slam Titan, 2 Sunsigners and unsure the last. We would shadow shot at the beginning and then the sunsinger would clean up so that way both got back their supers and had some for others.

We then went left side, killed the tower Knights, killed the sword (gave that person the Chalice), then called out, 1 rocket crota, sword did his thing, count 3,2,1, rocket, sword does his thing then gets away and the rest shoot the oversoul (and the tower knights if back). Wait for him to rotate, do it again.

We then waited for the ogres in the start room and came out cleaning them up. We were a bit late finding the second one, so we had to let Crota rotate (maybe we didn't have to but we did). Then did the same thing for the 3rd and final sword.

2 Golden Guns and 2 Blessing Bubbles:

Pop bubble to block boomer shots, only kill 1 boomer on whatever side your team is standing (Leaves everyone free to shoot).

First sword runner goes up, gets 3 hits and gets out. Oversoul pops up, Golden Gun #1 solos it while everyone drops Crota again. Sword runner gets 3 more hits...EVERYONE shoots 2nd Oversoul. Return to safe room.

Repeat with a new runner. Just make sure that between first and second sword runner that you only hit Crota 11 times. 12th RT/R2 hit will enrage him. This time 2nd titan pops bubble, 2nd Golden Gunsolos Oversoul. After 2nd set of hits everyone goes to bottom tower to deal with ogres after clearing the Oversoul.

Kill ogres and wait for Crota to move, don't go back to safe room it will save you time. Instead everyone up the stairs, pop bubble while runner gets swordbearer. 6 more hits and he's dead.

Last night the regular Wednesday night XBox crew ran through the Crota Challenge three times with no issues. In fact the only wipe was when Crota decided to visit the "safe" room at the top of the left stairs. It was very helpful to have two hunters and at least one titan for the runs.

For the first run, we used the hunters to one-shot Crota just before the sword-runner got to him. The other fire team members dealt with the Boomers, Wizard and Oversoul.

The second and third run, we used the hunters to one-shot the Oversoul. The other fire team members used rockets to drop Crota as the runner moved from the ledge (and dealt with the Boomers, Wizard and any lingering Oversoul).

We used Titan Bubbles mostly for orb generation (Crest of Alpha Lupi helps), but the Blessing of light safety net was nice. In all three runs we stayed at the top of the left stairs until after the second pair of Sword attacks on Crota, when we moved into the left side Ogre spawn room to deal with the Ogres. Stay in that room until Crota passes by on the bridge!

We used the 4 yellow-bar knights at the start to generate up to 12 orbs at the spawn - we kept our Golden Guns fed. Those orbs are also very helpful to anyone with an "Infusion" helmet that can convert them to health.

After clearing the beginning, our first sword-runner ran out and grabbed the chalice, then killed the Sword-Bearer (with assistance from the rest of the fireteam). He moved directly into position on the left side, and didn't return the chalice to the team until after Crota had been downed twice.

Note that the first two sword-runners must combine for 11 RT slams on Crota. Count them and communicate so there's no accidental enrage. The first six slams should put his health bar directly below the "S" in "Son of Oryx". If you get 6 at the start, the second and third sword-runners will need to do 5 each. We kept our best sword runner for the third run.

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