I still find it really hard to believe that the team that created the best video game vehicle ever (That's the Warthog you mooks!) dropped the ball so hard with vehicles in Destiny.

Hmm... You sure about that? The Falcon was very, very good! :)

Destiny is a game about light level and cool guns. I'm not sure vehicles have a place there because how do you fit in the vehicles. Either they will be too powerful, or they will be underpowered depending on the player's weapons/armor right? That is the problem in Destiny 1 anyway. None of the vehicles are fun because your weapons are way more powerful.

The presence of vehicles really requires specific level design. Look at all the vehicle heavy Halo levels and you will note that the vehicle sections are a pain to traverse on foot.

Likewise, the MP levels had to work hard to integrate vehicle and infantry space. it's a tough balance and I even see issues with it in Titanfall.

Destiny 1's current patrol spaces are too small for good warthog action. Most of them are too narrow to support even a warthog style design. It's only with RoI that we even started getting larger spaces with more open fields of view, and even that has two large transition levels.

I had really hoped that drop ships would have flown in and you could see Guardians getting off in the patrol spaces, and that you could summon and ride a hover warthog in D1. I think both of those ideas were sacrificed to the hardware limitations on the 360/PS3 much like driving around the whole halo ring on Halo CE.

In D2, I'm hoping we get more human vehicles, and larger, vehicle on vehicle maps. The promise of Lost Light and Bastion needs to be fulfilled. I really missed Halo's robust vehicle systems, with boarding and specific location damage. It's a pity no Halo games after Reach exist, NONE AT ALL. It's almost good in a way, like how Ridley Scott stopped after Aliens.

Okay, provocative title aside... The mechanic of vehicles doesn't really matter, but they brought important dynamics into Halo that are sorely missing in Destiny.

Put it this way. What goal did Vehicles serve in the Halo sandbox:

- The gave us sections that could feel different and break up the action.
- They provided on the moment options in the sandbox that created interesting play.

The thing is, Destiny doesn't need really developed vehicle play for the first. They kind of already do it in the first case, but it's done pretty poorly.

The second is kind of getting at a core issue of destiny. In a game designed to be replayed, and replayed a lot, it's sandbox still isn't really very dynamic. Thining to some of the larger fights in Halo games you could use vehicles in lots of crazy ways. Halo 3 often let you use ghosts, choppers, warthogs or tanks in the same setpiece fight. Halo also had a ton of verbs about vehicles, you could drive one, work the gun, board one to take it over, board it to destroy it, flip it over. Destiny really only lets you destroy them or pilot/shoot from them Destiny, especially in the heavily replayed elements, *needs* that kind of dynamism. They could do it other ways, but it's limited by lots of other design issues.

IMO, the dynamis is the issue here, not the vehicles. Vehicles would be a great method tot tackle it though.