I have Atheon's Epilogue which is the same archetype but just better. Void damage, with a Perfect Balance stability upgrade, Persistence to help prolonged burst accuracy, and add the most stable scope and it becomes mostly usable at close to mid.

According to the data someotherguy got, ARs have the highest raw DPS. But you have to hit those shots for it to count. Dr Nope just doesn't cut it - especially if you want criticals.

On the flipside, high stability is why Shadow Price and Suros Regime are popular...

But Kapowaz says that if I enable all upgrades but don't invest resources in it then I will get more ascendant energy from it when I do dispose of it.

If upgrading it is your main reason for using it, just use bounties instead to get all the upgrades. I've done this with a lot of the exotics that aren't any good before they are upgraded to their titular ability.

I use it a lot. It's basically an atheon's epilogue without the void damage.

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I just got that as a reward for nightfall. That's its own problem, but is the gun any good? It has glass half full and third eye.

That gun is a piece of shit.

Sometimes it's just the right weapon. I even took out Nexus and Phogoth bosses with it.

It's cranky and hard to aim at first but if you hang on for the ride, it can be a real crowd reduction tool.

So much depends on the game settings and environment. If the enemy is not flinching or you are wide open to a boss when shooting, a peek and shoot weapon would be better.

I like it a lot, personally. Though I really wouldn't recommend it unless it has Perfect Balance, which the one the Vanguard sells does have. I enjoy being able to shoot a stupid amount of bullets at a stupid speed.

I could use it just fine before getting its Stability upgrade perk, but I think I'm rather different in taste than most folks here.

I don't. I tried it for a while, but that sort of gun just isn't for me. Too much random spray. I had a Grim Citizen for a while, and recently had a Shadow Price drop, which I've switched to (their handling is practically identical, but the perks on this particular Shadow Price work better for me). Both of them are relatively slow-firing for an autorifle, and much more stable. Works better for me.

I've played around with this on a handful of Legendaries I've been given through engrams/faction level ups

At first I would fully unlock the tech tree of the gun (via equip-item-on-bounty-turn-in tactic). Since I'm not really using them, I don't invest in any of their tech upgrades (beyond the first primary tech, because it only takes glimmer). This process normally gives me ~5 AE, but I could have sworn I even got 7 AE during on dismantle of a fully unlocked weapon.

Recently I just said "fuck it" to getting the last three upgrades unlocked (the ones which use AE for upgrading). So, I'd just unlock it until the last damage upgrade which uses Weapons Parts. With this process, I'm still getting ~5 AE.

I'm currently sitting at over 100 AE (it's more of a matter of farming the materials needed. I have plenty to spend it on). So I'll probably end up seeing what I get for dismantling a weapon with everything unlocked up to its 2nd primary tech, and just its primary and option techs unlocked, and just its first optional tech. If I continue to get the same AE from this, I'll probably just end up testing fewer and fewer tech tree unlocks.

TL;DR: you just need to *unlock* the weapon upgrades, you don't have to invest in them to get more AE from dismantles. And you don't have to fully unlock it (unless of course I'm remembering right about that 7 AE from a dismantle, because I've only gotten that once).