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Look at it from my perspective. It just ruined today for me. Instead of having fun in the crucible, I have to play strikes over and over. Do you think that's fun? Do you think I wanted to do that today?

The irony of being privileged enough to play a video game all day and bitching about not having everything handed to you when you were the economically irresponsible one is so deliciously hilarious that I might have to skip lunch. I'm quite full.

Here's the thing, Cody:

-This is like the fifth or sixth week that Xûr hasn't sold heavy ammo synths since launch. I would know. I make the dang posts, and I stock up every time in case he doesn't have them the week after. It's never been a guarantee, so it's entirely your fault for expecting it to be.

-If you don't want to take the 20 minutes to get 15,000 glimmer based on principle alone, that's entirely your fault too. YOU are deciding to keep yourself broke. I farmed for the first time last night just to use up the Network key that my Hunter had (though I ended up with more), and I didn't feel like Bungie targeted me to destroy my time and self-respect. You're okay with taking two hours on a five minute segment "because it's fun" to wipe over and over, but God forbid ten minutes of your time is wasted on farming glimmer.

-You think that just because Xur's not selling heavy, you have to drop all of your plans TODAY to farm for glimmer slowly? That's entirely your fault. You could continue on Iron Banner and worry about farming on Monday or Tuesday.

-You mismanaged your finances. You wasted your money leveling weapons and gear that you likely won't use (aren't you always running your mouth about how Fatebringer, Black Hammer, and such make everything else obsolete?) That's all your fault.

I ended up with 48 glimmer yesterday just because I bought the Iron Banner chest that I like, and yet twenty minutes later, I had more money than what I started with, even though I wasn't planning on buying anything. Seems like I know how to avoid wasting my time...

Epic bro!

I tip my fedora to you you sure showed Cody.

I see intellect is your blade and logic your steed.....

Go grind Exclusion Zone for 1 hour. Hit the cap. Carry on with IB. Buy what you want. Re-grind Exclusion zone on Tueaday for Synth.

Do you know how MIND NUMBINGLY BORING exclusion zone farming is? It's literally like watching a clock tick. A game should not require or encourage that type of thing.

My Vault currently has about 40+ Silken Codexs, 20+ House Banners, and less axiomatic beads\network keys but still in the double digits.

I get them, I vault them. I save them for a rainy day. It's helped me out more than once for those unplanned droughts etc.

I treat my vault like a bank.

Everything in Destiny is Random.

You know this.

You can't plan\assume things are going to be the same week to week!

^This is EXACTLY how the vault and consumables should be used. :highfive: for clever gaming, glad I'm not the only person who does this.

Also; You get glimmer rewards for winning IB games, so.. Just play IB increase your rank + glimmer + exp on weps + faction standing (if you still get faction + IB ranks) all at the same time.

Also, also; I'm at 25k glimmer ATM. Farming exclusion zone will make you 4k per 10 mins if you do it right.
I agree with the others here Cody, go farm, get glimmer, carry on with IB.

Financial +ing consequences will never be the same. And that's all on you and Unreal.

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*SonofMacPhisto waves at BeardFade*

I'll try to read you more charitably going forward.

Twitter. :)

That's inherently false. I enjoy the game quite a bit, and this game is masterful at wasting my time and just about everyone else's.

Really? Are we back to Cody's "if you're playing a video game instead of doing something productive, you're wasting your time" argument?

Nope. First of all, I have no idea what you're talking about. Second, Cody speaks for himself, not me.

Because if we're not, I'd thank you not to speak for others. (You certainly don't speak for me, and it's pretty clear you don't speak for nico, either.)

The time I choose to devote to playing Destiny is rarely wasted; I play because I like playing. I rarely farm (in the sense Cody's talking about) - there are times I choose to simply patrol, but it's because I like it. If I didn't, I would play something else.

You're projecting whatever it is that Cody said at some point onto me, and that's great and all, but I never once implied that just playing the game as a video game was a waste of time. And why would I use Destiny as that argument? We both could think of some other video games that I'd much rather use as an example for that.

Moving on, I said that the game itself was masterful at wasting peoples' time. It's not black and white (as if to imply just the mere act of playing the game is a waste), as indicated by my saying that his premise was inherently false. I said I enjoy the game quite a bit, and I can enjoy the game plenty, yet the game is still great at wasting my and others' time. For example, the ability to skip cutscenes that doesn't exist. You also have every right to disagree with that example. Still wastes peoples' time.

There have been weeks I haven't had enough coins to buy whatever's cool from Xur, and it's made me sad - but it hasn't changed the way I play the game.

From talking to others, I know I'm not alone.

So? I run a single character. Clearly my lack of getting whatever hasn't led me to run multiple characters. Apparently we're in agreement.

This forum (and really ANY forum devoted to this game, or any game) tends to attract power players - just this morning I read a couple of posts from people who have 2-3 of almost every high-level exotic in the game. I KNOW that the vast majority of players don't have ANY of those - much less multiple copies... so when you let your opinion of how the game should be be swayed by what you hear on a forum, you're not really getting a true picture of the player base. I think that's true here, too.

Agreed, though I don't see how that matters beyond whatever thing Cody said at one point that you're going on about. The only reason I said his thing was inherently false was because the two aren't mutually exclusive. You can enjoy the game and still find many parts of the game that waste your time personally or outright, and that's for all individuals. As a matter of fact, all video games generally waste everyone's time in some way, shape, or form. Hence why it's inherently false to claim that something doesn't waste your time just because you enjoy it. But we can agree to disagree. It's still just my opinion, regardless of whatever Cody thing you're talking about.

Really? Are we back to Cody's "if you're playing a video game instead of doing something productive, you're wasting your time" argument?

That's not what I am saying. I'm saying if you aren't having fun, your time is being wasted. Destiny put up many many barriers to fun, thus has a lot of wasted time. Not a second of my time playing Wolfenstein New Order for example, was wasted. Not. One. Second.

It was simply a game much better designed than Destiny.

That's inherently false. I enjoy the game quite a bit, and this game is masterful at wasting my time and just about everyone else's.

Really? Are we back to Cody's "if you're playing a video game instead of doing something productive, you're wasting your time" argument?

Because if we're not, I'd thank you not to speak for others. (You certainly don't speak for me, and it's pretty clear you don't speak for nico, either.)

The time I choose to devote to playing Destiny is rarely wasted; I play because I like playing. I rarely farm (in the sense Cody's talking about) - there are times I choose to simply patrol, but it's because I like it. If I didn't, I would play something else.

There have been weeks I haven't had enough coins to buy whatever's cool from Xur, and it's made me sad - but it hasn't changed the way I play the game.

I saw that he had Dragon's Breath last week, and though I wanted to buy it, I didn't feel like running the weekly Heroic to get the coins for it, since I felt like doing other fun things. I guess we're in the same boat...

This forum (and really ANY forum devoted to this game, or any game) tends to attract power players - just this morning I read a couple of posts from people who have 2-3 of almost every high-level exotic in the game.

Not only do I have every launch-day exotic, but I have multiple Ice Breakers, Gjallarhorns, Mythoclasts, etc... But that's pretty much all from dumb luck, and more often than not, I don't even use them. I like playing around with less-than-top-tier gear.

Never have I had the "if you don't have this, why bother" attitude of many min-maxers. Despite having enough armors to get my characters to 32, I played Iron Banner just to get the awesome-looking 33-light Chest for the Hunter, because I like how it looks, and knocking my character down to 31 didn't bother me. I could taste Cody's confusion through the headset...
I play Destiny longer than I need to if stuff that I like is available, to an extent. I may not run a 20-minute weekly to get a 331 rocket launcher that I won't use, but I don't mind working hard for days to nab a shiny chest that I'll enjoy wearing, even if the stats suck...

tl;dr Even power players aren't all negative nancies about how to play the game.