The purple ball has been reborn in the tower as an interactive sphere with a parallaxed energy core that grows with object velocity and tints based off time of day

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I thought it was stated the nerf to range was a bug and was hoping it'd be fixed here. Anyone know if it's working as intended? Or accidental nerf from the hand cannon change?

Will you even have it downloaded in time to raid tonight?

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I got super excited when I saw that perk name... You'd think that the Hive Majors bug would take priority.

Last week I had heard tales that black hammer would stop working on tanks. If this is what started that rumor, I'm relieved.

Nt

I see their latin is just as bad as ever:

http://www.destinydb.com/items/824273149

Manus is actually feminine, so it's supposed to be Manus Celeris Dei :-p

(The description is ostensibly supposed to be "Don't make us kick your ass")

I thought they were referring to this.

I see their latin is just as bad as ever:

http://www.destinydb.com/items/824273149

Manus is actually feminine, so it's supposed to be Manus Celeris Dei :-p

I know nothing about Latin, so I'll take your word for it. But I appreciate the throwback.

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I care about a lot of the things you say here, because even though they're not in line with how I think during a game, I have to admit they do negatively impact my fun. But one thing stuck out more than the rest:

Crucible's become this awkward clockwork where you are worrying more about timers than the encounters.

This, this, a thousand times this! I'm okay not getting heavies sometimes because I can still earn a Super, but if my team is getting stomped then sometimes the only way to turn things around is with heavies; and if the other team is earning Supers on us...well, then they can pave a way to the heavies pretty easily.

I would be okay if the losing team got a single heavy crate to drop for their team when my team gets a Strength of the Wolf, but with this business of not being rewarded for killing someone with heavies I'm beginning to feel similarly; that everything is shifting toward primaries.

~m

... With the new way it plays, Crucible is actually less fun for me.

Yes. Ironically whatever they were trying to solve with their heavy ammo changes - probably preventing someone from having a ton and cleaning up - is now worse because you have fewer options to use your own ammo as a counter.

Before this patch I called that rockets would get a huge priority, and by what you are saying that seems right.

This promotes less variety, not more, and is more boring.

Maybe the original crucible was a happy accident like Halo 1's multiplayer was.

it sucks to be in the middle of a firefight, switch to your secondary to finish them, then see that it's empty. You then switch back to your primary that still needs to reload, and it's just awkward. Same thing with seeing a blade dancer come at you. You switch to your shotgun, but oops, it's empty. Because not only do they hold less ammo, but ammo crates take far too long to spawn.

Also, the Heavy ammo situation. If you wait for your teammates to show up for the Heavy, then you all get a rocket headed your way because of the one guy on the other team who didn't wait, so now you are inclined not to wait... Which wouldn't be so bad if the Heavy didn't despawn on Death, but now you have to make sure to grab it or lose it altogether. I used to save Heavy ammo for Blade Dancers, but now it's not a good proposition. All I've seen in crucible today are rocket launchers in response to disappearing ammo and the quick Charlie Foxtrots that occur in the 15 seconds after a Heavy drop. And thanks to the longer timer and map icon, getting Heavy ammo is ironically not as easy or as guaranteed, because an enemy with a Super has plenty of time to make a bolt for your team, and since your team is huddled by the heavy, he's pretty uncontested all the way there. And because of the bigger focus on Rockets, Machine Guns are out of the question; you simply can't risk holding on to Heavy ammo anymore.

Crucible's become this awkward clockwork where you are worrying more about timers than the encounters.

I saw an ammo crate and was like "thank the Nine", but then I saw that the timer on it was still at 45 seconds. That's almost a full minute without secondary ammo, unless I run to the next crate hoping that my teammates didn't grab it while I was respawning. I can get behind decreasing shotgun spam, but it feels like someone came up with a list of different ways to counter it, and someone said "perfect, implement them all!"

... With the new way it plays, Crucible is actually less fun for me.

I'm not the Crucible master that you are, but I've had a few good games the past few weeks and now worry about how things will play out now.

I'm not happy about this:

Added incremental revive timers to Skirmish and Salvage
Each time a teammate revives you, it takes longer before you can be revived again (currently +5s each revive)

Five seconds?! That seems insane to me.

Kermit

it sucks to be in the middle of a firefight, switch to your secondary to finish them, then see that it's empty. You then switch back to your primary that still needs to reload, and it's just awkward. Same thing with seeing a blade dancer come at you. You switch to your shotgun, but oops, it's empty. Because not only do they hold less ammo, but ammo crates take far too long to spawn.

*Shrug*

Ammo management is part of the game. Always has been. Now it's a bit more part of it. Don't like managing your ammo? Get comfortable with a high capacity primary and Invective or Icebreaker. That's what I'm doing and it's working fine so far...

Also, the Heavy ammo situation. If you wait for your teammates to show up for the Heavy, then you all get a rocket headed your way because of the one guy on the other team who didn't wait, so now you are inclined not to wait... Which wouldn't be so bad if the Heavy didn't despawn on Death, but now you have to make sure to grab it or lose it altogether. I used to save Heavy ammo for Blade Dancers, but now it's not a good proposition. All I've seen in crucible today are rocket launchers in response to disappearing ammo and the quick Charlie Foxtrots that occur in the 15 seconds after a Heavy drop. And thanks to the longer timer and map icon, getting Heavy ammo is ironically not as easy or as guaranteed, because an enemy with a Super has plenty of time to make a bolt for your team, and since your team is huddled by the heavy, he's pretty uncontested all the way there. And because of the bigger focus on Rockets, Machine Guns are out of the question; you simply can't risk holding on to Heavy ammo anymore.

The only thing different is you can't wait out the initial Heavy kerfufflel so easily. Some around here are acting like Heavy Machine Guns were not a risk vs Rocket Launchers before and now they are. No. The risk is basically the same as always. Case in point: Very often when I play with DBO groups we cluster around the heavy ammo and pick it up as soon as everyone close and interested is in range. Sure, that's more enforced now that the boxes will despawn but again I don't see it changing much of our play strategy.

I would like heavy ammo to be dropped on death again though.

Crucible's become this awkward clockwork where you are worrying more about timers than the encounters.

Disagree.

I saw an ammo crate and was like "thank the Nine", but then I saw that the timer on it was still at 45 seconds. That's almost a full minute without secondary ammo, unless I run to the next crate hoping that my teammates didn't grab it while I was respawning. I can get behind decreasing shotgun spam, but it feels like someone came up with a list of different ways to counter it, and someone said "perfect, implement them all!"

I've gotten spammed with a lot of shotguns lately, or maybe it just feels that way, so I'm for the all of the above approach at least on an idealistic level. Just started playing so maybe I'll notice some big issue and come back to this with a reconsidered opinion. We'll see...

I played for about 2 hours last night and felt like the changes really suited my play style a lot. Here are a few reasons:

1) I love to snipe, everyone who plays with me knows it. The new ammo system makes my ability to be more accurate than my opponent all the more valuable, because I can get more kills per crate than they can. And since there are fewer crates, I can actually deny them opportunities to match me ammo wise.

2) While it was frustrating to run up to a crate to see it still had a minute on it, I also enjoy the challenge of changing tactics and adapting strategy. On those occasions I ran out of special ammo, I had to adapt, find ways to attack with my primary that were effective. Plus, with TTK on primaries being a bit slower than specials, it puts an emphasis on playing as a team, attacking enemies together. I like that.

3) I've been using HMG's for quite some time, so I already have the instinct to avoid the areas of the map with heavy rocket play. I found last night that I was still able to manage my heavy really well, multiple times still having some heavy ammo by the time the next heavy dropped. I also think that getting an extra 5 seconds really helps me get heavy more often because on certain maps, my preferred positioning isn't within 10 seconds of the drop.

I'm not saying the Crucible is perfect and get it that it's frustrating. I think a lot of good points were made, some bad ones as well, but at least for now, I enjoy the changes.

..... I play too much Destiny.

Same here. I thought it was glitched cards (like Mercury) - but I still don't have that one, so now I'm not sure. :)

Although part of me wishes they'd included the egg this way.

Especially post Marty. That song's got some legs, I'll tell you what.

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having had some more time to look, the radar blips actually look yellow with a slight green tinge, the sky was throwing me off; I'd still prefer red, but it's better than green

...immediately locked their Gjallarhorn so it wouldn't be accidentally deleted?

I have three, so I wouldn't lament over one going missing.

The other night, I was almost passing out, saw that I was carrying two Ice Breakers, and for some reason decided to shard one. And it was a leveled 331. I checked the other, and it was a 300, so I was like "oops" and sharded it too...
Sleep-deprivation has weird effects on me.

At least I still have a few more Ice Breakers, but that was... A moment for me.

The first thing that got locked for me was Hawkmoon, then a bunch of other weapons. Why can't we lock gear, though?

I still haven't gotten one. I was just happy to randomly get The Last Word after a Crucible match a few weeks back.

I literally locked every weapon and piece of armor I currently had on me. None of them were maybes, so why not just lock them all?

;)

It appears colorblindness is something radically more common than I thought. So weird.

I can't tell you what a difference the colour blindness correction makes.
It's astonishing - makes the whole game look clearer and brighter.
There's a massive distinction between ammo types and blue/darker blue (there's no such colour as purple) engrams now. And the tracker makes so much more sense (there are different intensities of colour to indicate proximity - who knew?!)

What, seriously? Are you talking about enemies above or below, or changing color as they get closer on the same level?
I pretty much agree on the rest-- different drops are much easier to distinguish, plus special ammo is more visible, and heavy ammo is much more visible.

It's an amazing thing to have done - I wish they could make me a pair of glasses so I could see the rest of the world like this.

I know they don't have glasses that correct colors perfectly (obviously, this would take some amazing tech), but I do have a friend that carries around a pair of these:

http://wearecolorblind.com/article/oxy-iso-glasses-review/

I can't tell you what a difference the colour blindness correction makes.
It's astonishing - makes the whole game look clearer and brighter.
There's a massive distinction between ammo types and blue/darker blue (there's no such colour as purple) engrams now. And the tracker makes so much more sense (there are different intensities of colour to indicate proximity - who knew?!)
It's an amazing thing to have done - I wish they could make me a pair of glasses so I could see the rest of the world like this.

The glasses exist, they (Context: Bungie) just aren't going to make it for you.