...but if you've been in my fireteam you know how I feel about the gap.

Caveat: I have absolutely no opinion formed on Bastion, since I've barely played on it once.

Cauldron must be the closest one to dislike. Maybe it's the doors that prevent me from engaging targets before the trample me. Maybe it's the massive verticality involved when moving inside/outside. But I still enjoy it on Control.

Dunno, I guess Destiny's PvP is so engaging to me that I'm almost always having fun.

Now, favorites:

• Firebase Delphi and Asylum, for the great probability of continuous mayhem involving B. If you feel like shooting stuff and unleashing Nova Bombs. All. The. Time. these are the maps to do it.
  
• Twilight Gap, for the massive number of tactical approaches available at any given time. "Oh, I feel like storming". Check. "Oh, I feel like flanking". Check. "Oh, I feel like sniping like a douche." Check.
  
• Blind Watch, for the spawn-flipping meta-game (usually my lowest K/Ds come from Blind Watch, but my highest W/L too. I love me some spawn-flipping meta-game)

Starting with the good:

Shores of Time:

I think shores just flows really nicely. There are lots of lanes for different kinds of combat. And I generally prefer the "Triangular" setup maps to the lane based maps. You can make lots of good setups, or take the fight to CQB really quickly. It's probably my favorite overall map.

I like Rusted Lands for the same reasons.

As for maps I dislike,

Ugh.

It's three lanes, doors, atrium and open. You can move quickly, but all the firefights end up being between an open door. It's just... boring. It's also cluttered, and visually messy. My least favorite destiny Map by far.

Well, let's just say there's a reason Bungie lowered the weighting of Blind Watch.

This is my idea for spawns/flags on Blind Watch. I think it would work better and B could be adjusted so that the time to get from C to B and A to B are the same. Now instead of being able to hold the doors with snipers and shotties to keep A out of B, B is on the outside under the overhang. So you could attack straight on, or get on the roof and drop down behind the team. And while snipers would still be deadly, it is much more of an open alley. Heavies could probably stay where they are at, but I hate the A heavy in that stupid merri-go-round. I always bork that jump and end up in the basement under it.

It's interesting to see how game-types can influence my perception of a map's quality. I actually liked Blind Watch quite a bit at first- the rotating windows on the windwheel thing, the verticality of it... And then Iron Banner rolled around, and it dropped to the bottom of my list. I've been trying to figure out a balanced place to put "B" flag, but there's just no suitable location in the middle of the map without major geometry changes (IMO).

I could go on, but I made this topic because I'm way more interested in what other people have to say. Which PvP maps to you love/hate, and why? What changes would you make to them?

I think my favorite map is Anomaly. I'm a hang back and pop shots kinda guy, so the catwalk across from B is my home. I really think that is the trick to the map, holding that area. If you control that, you can control B. A and C seem to be fairly equal. I also like that while it has moving Geometry, it doesn't get in the way. Burning Shrine on the other hand. I hate those rotating doors, especially in trials. Seems like just as I'm about to get that final shot, they get in my way and give my enemy time to recover. I'm also not a big fan of doors that open and close. 1. They give away your immediate location, 2. If you are a little laggy, you have to wait for them to open, 3. Don't know what three is, but it's there. :)

I also really like Shores of Time, but it too fails in flag placement. It is one of the few maps where you can almost cover two points from one position. Smart teams simply Cap B and C and just watch for the enemy approach. If they moved B just to the other side of the jump to the platform it's on and adjusted the spawns it would be better.

I wish they would put all the maps in the Control playlist. I'd like to have more options without limiting myself to 2 or 3 big maps only.

It isn't so much a matter of hating or loving any particular maps (though anyone will tell you I do love me some Blind Watch), but a matter of just being burnt out on certain maps. Pantheon, Twilight Gap, Cauldron...they come up in the rotation so frequently, I just bore of constantly going to the same ones over and over and over. I can't remember the last time I played Firebase Delphi or Blind Watch.

A voting system or at least equal weighing of maps would be highly appreciated.

Honestly, I don't even know all the maps.

I've only really played Control regularly, so I feel like it's just the same four maps over and over.

I think one factor not being mentioned that has also changed maps is where the special ammo is. For example, Burning Shrine has become a much more difficult map to get special on. I'll think about it some more and make a more thoughtful response to maps tomorrow. Good call on the post!

I love Crucible in general. The infinite creativity, the competition, the opportunity to best another human being; It's the best. You know, until lag becomes an issue.

I think all of the maps can be great maps if you can adapt your play style for the map. I generally like sniping, taking people out from a distance, and I've been able to find useful ways to play this way on most maps, but I would say it's least helpful on Theive's Den, Firebase Delphi, and maybe Twilight Gap (totally possible on this map, but you might be more effective getting closer to the enemy).

I definitely prefer maps that are balanced, and symmetrical. I appreciate the triangle-based maps more than the lanes. Pantheon is great when you own B, and horrible when you don't. It's way too difficult to flank on Pantheon without getting your head blown off (and they could have made that outside rim a hair wider, who needs a stinking hole right next to heavy?).

That being said, the imbalanced maps are so much fun when you're winning and so frustrating when you're not. As much fun as it is to watch my K/D go sky high on maps like Shores of Time and Blind Watch, being on the other side of that situation makes me wish they could find a way to balance those maps.

I think some of my favorite maps are Anomaly and Burning Shrine. That being said, there are very few I hate. So far, I have not found a way to play Theive's Den that I like, and Sky Shock is equally a pain, but I never play combined arms. I wish First Light and Bastion were back in the Control rotation as I enjoyed those maps.

Not what you asked but…

I am bothered by how many maps exist but I never play. Until the past week or so I had never played ONE game on TimeKeeper. The HoW maps in general are low-use for me as I usually get into Crucible for limited time events and they seem to avoid the new maps. I understand the point that not everyone has the new maps, but I do. In fact, I paid for them. it seems weird that it's so rare that I get to benefit from PVP paps until they become free for all.

First Light and the other big Vex-y one are hidden away where they never come up.

While I dislike Cauldron like any self-respecting Guardian, I actually feel like Pantheon has to take the crown for "Worst Map".

Where Cauldron feels like a good idea (circular map with easy rotation, horizontal symmetry and interesting lines of sight) executed poorly, Pantheon feels like a bad idea from the get-go.

A lot of this is because of the spawn areas. Based on the heatmaps Bungie provided, the two self-contained spawn areas make up 70% of the map. That's enormous! Literally 70% of the map is partitioned off from the main play space for respawns. And because they're so huge, it's very difficult to flip the spawns.

Now you might think "Well at least it's a symmetrical map, so you don't need to flip spawns often". Most of the time, yes, you intentionally flip the spawns for a strategic advantage. But the real purpose of spawn flipping is to prevent spawn camping. It prevents an enemy team from sitting outside your spawn and picking you off as you spawn in. It doesn't always work perfectly, especially in 12-man games where things can get a little hectic, but for the most part if the enemy rushes your spawn, you spawn somewhere else, hopefully out of harm's way.

Compare that to Pantheon, where the spawn areas are large enough that you can have people literally capturing your home Control Point and still spawn there. In some cases that can be quite convenient, but not when they're also packing an LMG, or when there's more than one of them.

What's worse, the spawn areas are partitioned, with only 3 ways out into the main play space. even worse still, all three routes are fantastic sniper lanes and grenade chokepoints, and two of them require you to come around a blind corner. What this means is that almost every single game of Clash or Control on Pantheon turns into a game of "Trap them in their spawn and pick them off as they try to leave".

And after all that, my personal favourite - the 15 second walk of shame. After every death you respawn at the back of your enormous spawn area, and have to sprint for 15 seconds before you can even make another attempt at breaking out. If you die just 10 times in a game on Pantheon, you've spent 2 and a half minutes walking out of your spawn. Incredibly frustrating in Clash (especially with Heavy Ammo inbound), but downright unbearable in Control where the enemy can easily neutralise and/or capture Point B in the time it takes to respawn and get back to the fight. Yuck.

Strangely, Pantheon is actually a pretty good map for 3v3, probably because it's much harder to lock down all three lanes with only 3 people and players tend to stick together more.

Tl;Dr - Pantheon's needlessly large spawns and poorly placed chokepoints encourage spawn camping, making it uniquely awful for 6v6.