I understand what you want. Bungie has decided to go a different route. You've made your unhappiness known (many times). Are you going to CONTINUE to do so - or are you going to go play something else until they make something you like?

I'll probably try SRL, do all the Raid challenges, THEN chill until something great comes along.

That sounds like a great idea!

Now can you do it without acting like a martyr?

Yep, because Micro-transactions lead to mini games. All companies are forced to make mini games with Micro-transaction money.

That's not really what I said, but whatever. It's just the route Bungie appears to be taking.

I understand what you want. Bungie has decided to go a different route. You've made your unhappiness known (many times). Are you going to CONTINUE to do so - or are you going to go play something else until they make something you like?

I'll probably try SRL, do all the Raid challenges, THEN chill until something great comes along.

It's only slippery if they find a way to make me spend money I don't want to spend

First of all, nobody can force you to spend your money. Except the IRS.

Second of all, just because you and I have never bought anything with silver doesn't mean that Bungie isn't pressuring people in scummy ways.

The end result of course DOES effect everybody: we're getting mini games instead of big cool content packs. I want to continue to fight the darkness and discover the secrets of the golden age… not make papers masks.

It's as though you're making the point that the course they've taken has driven development, rather than the other way around.

You can't be making that point, though, can you? You don't really believe that Bungie said "hey, let's stop charging bigger sums of money for expansions, but instead only collect for microtransactions... hey, I guess that means we aren't going to be able to make large DLC this year!"

Do you?

I understand what you want. Bungie has decided to go a different route. You've made your unhappiness known (many times). Are you going to CONTINUE to do so - or are you going to go play something else until they make something you like?

It's only slippery if they find a way to make me spend money I don't want to spend

First of all, nobody can force you to spend your money. Except the IRS.

Second of all, just because you and I have never bought anything with silver doesn't mean that Bungie isn't pressuring people in scummy ways.

The end result of course DOES effect everybody: we're getting mini games instead of big cool content packs. I want to continue to fight the darkness and discover the secrets of the golden age… not make papers masks.

Yep, because Micro-transactions lead to mini games. All companies are forced to make mini games with Micro-transaction money.

It's only slippery if they find a way to make me spend money I don't want to spend

First of all, nobody can force you to spend your money. Except the IRS.

Second of all, just because you and I have never bought anything with silver doesn't mean that Bungie isn't pressuring people in scummy ways.

The end result of course DOES effect everybody: we're getting mini games instead of big cool content packs. I want to continue to fight the darkness and discover the secrets of the golden age… not make papers masks.

You buy into what you want to buy into. If you're spending money you don't want to spend, are you really going to claim it's Bungie's nefarious psychological manipulation making you do it... or will you admit it's your own choice?

I still haven't purchased anything in destiny outside of DLC. I don't feel left out or at a disadvantage.

This is arguably the start of what the naysayers predicted. The slope sure is getting slippery.

I'm not sure I understand this at all.

I still haven't paid an extra penny for stuff like emotes. I'm not suddenly going to start because they're bundling stuff in random packs, or to GET specific stuff BEFORE they bundle stuff in random packs.

It's only slippery if they find a way to make me spend money I don't want to spend - so far, they haven't done this. (Expansions? That's money I WANT to spend.)

NOTHING they've offered for cash - including the sparrow stats book, I think - gives you something that provides a clear advantage over people who haven't spent money.

As far as I can tell, the sparrow racing book will give you a permanent place to see your racing stats after the event is over. (I assume this means that B.net will only be showing racing stats during the event. Maybe it means there won't be ANY way to see SRL stats on B.net, even during the event... but I'll wait and see about that.) It's POSSIBLE that racing stats will not be accessible via API - but if they are, third-party options (like Destiny Tracker) will give you the same functionality, for free.

Until I know for sure that they've actively blocked DT (and sites like it) from this sort of thing, I'm not gonna worry about it.

You buy into what you want to buy into. If you're spending money you don't want to spend, are you really going to claim it's Bungie's nefarious psychological manipulation making you do it... or will you admit it's your own choice?

When micro transactions first showed up in Destiny it was only a matter of time until we got "packs" like this.

This is pretty awful, but will continue until people stop buying it. Which will be never.

Now they have a game of a bunch of haves emoting at a bunch of have nots. I now just sit whenever anyone breaks out some expensive emote to communicate how it makes me feel.

Maybe not the greatest example. I mean, the answer is yes, but I was a kid back then, with no sense of value and using someone else's money.

Heh, can't say the same. I was using (or eventually used) my own money on 'em. :)

Trading cards of all my favorite movies, shows, games, and comics were the main things that I bought like that, but there were some card games and HeroClix bought back in the day too. I also remember buying a box of Star Wars toys once in the format stores buy them (didn't know exactly which ones I'd get inside, just the wave; sold the rare or duplicates online).

I'm not saying it's my favorite way to spend money, especially anymore, but there was an innocent excitement in not knowing what you were getting exactly (and since there was usually a wide enough pool of things to get, duplicates weren't a big deal). For me, it never led to some addiction or something. I wasn't selling my TV for Pokemon cards. And now I still have my binder full of cards, and I've found they're a great and easily-managed reference for art. I can grab a Wolverine card for example, throw it in my sketchbook as a bookmark and have a ref. for his costume wherever I go.

If I HAD the spare change, I'd probably still buy some card packs for various things from time to time. There's a guy who sells artist trading cards at some conventions - you get a little box of a bunch covers and paintings the artist of your choice made. It's super motivating to flip through and it's given me lots of ideas for compositions without having to buy (or store) a library of art.

I wouldn't spend money in Destiny like this, mostly because emotes, etc. don't interest me, but I don't see the option as demonic or whatever, especially since it's still just cosmetics. I WOULD buy physical Destiny or classic Halo trading cards in a heartbeat (and a paycheck) though.