1. You don't get the aura.

You might not get the aura for a few reasons. Maybe you are too far away. Maybe you are in a stormtrance super (bug I'm sure). If this happens don't panic. Simply say that you didn't get it and not to switch. Once the person in the middle gets rid of their deathsinger's power, have them grab the aura off the pedestal on their way back, then you can begin your switch. Wait on the totem and try not to take damage or die, and when they get there you can start again as normal, just with the order now a little different.

2. Someone died.

You can do it with two people. If someone is dead you'll have to play it the following way with two people on a side. When the time comes to switch, have the person in the middle run towards the totem and grab the aura off the pedestal. Then when they have grabbed the aura, run to the middle yourself and get rid of your power. Repeat. The encounter is possible with only 4 people.

I was so tired (I had been up for over 24 hours) I was running around in a stupor on that raid. It's like when you're driving home and you find yourself on a street and you think "How in the hell did I get here?" I did that about 10 times during the raid. Did we beat Oryx? My memory goes from me switching to position 3 to us in the tower and me trying to convince you guys to run nightfall.

The other insane thing was our win in the daughters.

lol - I had no clue you were that far gone. (I knew you were tired, but I hadn't realized you'd been up for 24 hours.)

We didn't finish - looks like we'll get back to it sometime this weekend.

Nico agreed to do the nightfall with you, but I think it fell apart before it actually happened.

I've never seen so many close calls on fights than that raid.

I was so tired (I had been up for over 24 hours) I was running around in a stupor on that raid. It's like when you're driving home and you find yourself on a street and you think "How in the hell did I get here?" I did that about 10 times during the raid. Did we beat Oryx? My memory goes from me switching to position 3 to us in the tower and me trying to convince you guys to run nightfall.

The other insane thing was our win in the daughters.

lol - I had no clue you were that far gone. (I knew you were tired, but I hadn't realized you'd been up for 24 hours.)

We didn't finish - looks like we'll get back to it sometime this weekend.

Nico agreed to do the nightfall with you, but I think it fell apart before it actually happened.

The other insane thing was our win in the daughters.

We ran the raid last night and killed Golgoroth first try while pretty much fucking around. I once accidentally grabbed his gaze in the rear, normal gaze guy got it off me, and it worked fine. So, we decided to do that strategy to finish it out and yell at each other in confusion. Killed the hell out of that guy.

As I said last night, that was the most inefficient I'd ever seen a team be and still finish. I was pretty amazed, actually.

Guess which strategy Saylor and I now use for Golgoroth?

I ran to Golgoroth since I had unstable light. I killed MacAddict. He was apparently running to him at the same time to fire titan punch him.

Sorry I missed that. :) Do you see an appreciable amount of damage done to Golgoroth from the unstable light explosion if you're standing in front of him?

Just to be clear, we're talking about the front 2 of the 4 lower platforms, not one of the sisters platforms, yeah?

Oh. I misunderstood. (I've played with groups that like to shoot the second sister from the first sister's platform - it stresses me. :) )

Yeah, I hate making the jump up to the sisters platforms from down below. So easy to miss.

It's that lip at the top. Just bumps you backwards as you're in the air half the time.

If you're trying to get to the top of the sister platform from the center (instead of the mid-level platform), jump from the opposite side to better avoid that annoying lip.

 _______A__              __D_______
|         /              \         |
|         |_B_        _C_|         |
|            |        |            |
|            |________|            |

Jump from C to A or from B to D. If you're already on one of the four corner platforms, you can jump directly to the top of the closest Sister platform.

The one orb method seems to be the most popular.

Someone just posted a description of a great 1 orb method on reddit. I've tried it and it's very easy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/40ru2o/crazy_quick_golgoroth_stratergy/

Additionally, the person with unstable light can simply run right up to golgoroth. The others are out of range when it detonates. That way they can keep shooting!

Wow, that sounds great! (Not sure about the unstable light bit; you're running forward, so the guys you're trying to protect from yourself are behind you... seems easy to misjudge and be one step too close to them... but certainly the method.)

Can confirm running to golg works fine. The explosion of unstable light is about as big as the light puddle, so you're plenty far enough away when it goes off.

Just to be clear, we're talking about the front 2 of the 4 lower platforms, not one of the sisters platforms, yeah?

Oh. I misunderstood. (I've played with groups that like to shoot the second sister from the first sister's platform - it stresses me. :) )

Yeah, I hate making the jump up to the sisters platforms from down below. So easy to miss.

It's that lip at the top. Just bumps you backwards as you're in the air half the time.

Honestly though: Jumping in a counter-clockwise direction is not hard. L2Torn.

All I said was that this section was, by far, the most spotty in terms of completion - by every group I've ever played with. From beginners trying our first blind raid to folks carrying me through on one of their 3-per-week completions. (Mistakes happen, even with folks who are superb at the raid, and when they do, in my experience, they most often happen on the Sisters.)

I didn't say it was hard, or that I SHOULDN'T be able to do it - just that I, and many, many other people I've observed personally, have had trouble with it.

I'm surprised, is all. It's weird to me that you will encounter mistakes on Sisters, where 2 people can die and you can still finish it, more than Oryx where only 1 person can die. Heck, I've even finished sisters where the runner jumped clear off the map on his first jump. We got lucky that the next guy to get torn wasn't already standing on his tower, but still - far more recoverable than the oryx fight. Don't get me wrong, I believe you. I simply find it interesting that different raid groups, this long after the raid came out, have such different experiences of the raid.

Honestly though: Jumping in a counter-clockwise direction is not hard. L2Torn.

All I said was that this section was, by far, the most spotty in terms of completion - by every group I've ever played with. From beginners trying our first blind raid to folks carrying me through on one of their 3-per-week completions. (Mistakes happen, even with folks who are superb at the raid, and when they do, in my experience, they most often happen on the Sisters.)

I didn't say it was hard, or that I SHOULDN'T be able to do it - just that I, and many, many other people I've observed personally, have had trouble with it.

Out of curiosity, is this a fight that has given you guys trouble? I've seen a lot of threads here recently about how to do Sisters, but that fight seems like a complete gimmie to me. ToM if you have it, another scout rifle if you don't, and it's a quick and easy win.

I find that Sisters is, by a wide margin, the biggest wipe area - and it's primarily due to the random Torn person. Lots of us (MANY OF US) can't do the stupid spark jumping with any consistency, or at least in a reasonable timeframe. The wrong person gets randomly torn, and you wipe, even if everyone else does their job perfectly - no other section of KF is so unforgiving. (It's worse on the second round, because you're so close to being done.)

First round torn person: If you don't like who is torn, they can jump off the edge before the fight starts and a new person will become torn.

Second round: Good luck.

Honestly though: Jumping in a counter-clockwise direction is not hard. L2Torn.