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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<title>Yes, but not why it&#039;s happening. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I am sure many, if not all third party developers who do multiplatform releases of multiplayer games would push for this. However, the early example being brought out is Rocket League, which is a runaway hit, not a game slowly dying.</p>
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So Destiny is slowly dying you say?</p>
</blockquote><p>Oh, of course. Because there are only two games in existence, as everyone knows. Rocket League and Destiny. I was absolutely insinuating that.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 09:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am sure many, if not all third party developers who do multiplatform releases of multiplayer games would push for this. However, the early example being brought out is Rocket League, which is a runaway hit, not a game slowly dying.</p>
</blockquote><p>So Destiny is slowly dying you say?</p>
<p>Bet Bungie wished they didn't lock themselves in for another 8 and a half years.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Maybe Microsoft is doing it for their customers? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>hahaha, I couldn't help myself. No there is money somewhere down the line. I mean that or they are saving face for the shit they pulled when they released the XBone. </p>
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Wonder how the fanboys are going to react to the continued depreciation of the Xbone, considering how they reacted to news that the Xbox exclusives are headed to PC. This is not a move that adds value to the Xbone, but it does help save face. Makes one wonder how long of a lifespan Microsoft plans for the Xbone (assuming those &quot;optional hardware upgrades&quot; underwhelm).</p>
</blockquote><p>Like this:</p>
<p>(Apologies for Facebook link)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/polygon/posts/1144396365572990?comment_id=1144405438905416&amp;reply_comment_id=951225224915052&amp;notif_t=share_reply">https://www.facebook.com/polygon/posts/1144396365572990?comment_id=1144405438905416&amp;reply_comment_id=951225224915...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<title>Saw that. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, saw that article later. I actually posted a Facebook comment on Polygon's story of the MS announcement and got called a fanboy, a shill and a troll (for Sony, apparently). Later I just posted the link to the Ars article into the thread.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<title>Yes, but not why it&#039;s happening. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is it possible that some of the developers have pushed this? Perhaps as a way to keep their game's playerbase as large as possible? Imagine your game is slowly dying and your base is split between two consoles. </p>
</blockquote><p>I am sure many, if not all third party developers who do multiplatform releases of multiplayer games would push for this. However, the early example being brought out is Rocket League, which is a runaway hit, not a game slowly dying.</p>
<p>That said, yes, increasing the potential pool of players always makes matchmaking work better.</p>
<p>However, I am sure devs were pushing for it last year and the year before, so this isn't MS caving to mounting pressure from devs, it's caving to mounting pressure from somewhere else.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<title>I don&#039;t think they ever would. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 03:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>slycrel</dc:creator>
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<title>Maybe Microsoft is doing it for their customers? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Heck, I'd love one of our PS4 Trials teams to go up against Xbox people. :P</p>
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Something tells me we will get cross platform play before custom games.</p>
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I'd gladly scoop up a couple of Xbox friends over Custom Games any day. It's a brave new world!</p>
</blockquote><p>If given the choice between one or the other, I'd actually agree with you there.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Maybe Microsoft is doing it for their customers? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could admire your PS4 exclusive eq while it fails to shade my standard infinite line boots. <br />
I'm more interested in rocket league on multi platforms but Destiny 2 would be a nice addition.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Kuga</dc:creator>
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<title>Moar like Dubstep 2 (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Kuga</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not so worried about Bungie's end. They're already handling logins from 4 consoles split across two networks + PC dev kits. It's Xbox Live talking to PSN that seems the bigger challenge. That's two big networks that were never designed to interact with each other...</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Ragashingo</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That's all fine and dandy as far as getting automatically matched into a game together, and you could probably even invite them to your fireteam. Things outside the game like viewing their console-based profile, voice parties, messaging, etc., would probably dead-end.</p>
<p>Basically, I don't think anyone questions that cross-platform would be technically possible, there's just a lot of questions about how it would be implemented so that users can deal with it.</p>
</blockquote><p>My guess would that be that Microsoft would just be providing the hooks for developers and all the party/joining stuff would have to be done in game. There will probably be no input from the XBox console.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's all fine and dandy as far as getting automatically matched into a game together, and you could probably even invite them to your fireteam. Things outside the game like viewing their console-based profile, voice parties, messaging, etc., would probably dead-end.</p>
<p>Basically, I don't think anyone questions that cross-platform would be technically possible, there's just a lot of questions about how it would be implemented so that users can deal with it.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>stabbim</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Likely this works via Bungie's matchmaking servers.  As long as the consoles send their data to other consoles the same (regardless of platform) then it's a matter of a good communication layer -- which it's very likely bungie already has.</p>
<p>For example the stock twitter client or a 3rd party twitter client.  They're both communicating in the same way to the twitter servers.  A simplified example, but that's the gist of it.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, this is literally what I do as a day job. I work with unifying data across multiple platforms (Databases) to one source. So as long as Bungie has set some sort of Unified Data Format, it shouldn't matter what the source is.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Heck, I'd love one of our PS4 Trials teams to go up against Xbox people. :P</p>
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Something tells me we will get cross platform play before custom games.</p>
</blockquote><p>I'd gladly scoop up a couple of Xbox friends over Custom Games any day. It's a brave new world!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heck, I'd love one of our PS4 Trials teams to go up against Xbox people. :P</p>
</blockquote><p>Something tells me we will get cross platform play before custom games.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likely this works via Bungie's matchmaking servers.  As long as the consoles send their data to other consoles the same (regardless of platform) then it's a matter of a good communication layer -- which it's very likely bungie already has.</p>
<p>For example the stock twitter client or a 3rd party twitter client.  They're both communicating in the same way to the twitter servers.  A simplified example, but that's the gist of it.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>slycrel</dc:creator>
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<title>ArsTechnica surmises as much (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Today, the console market looks quite different from Microsoft's point of view. Worldwide, the PS4 is now in close to twice as many homes as the Xbox One. Even in the usually Microsoft-friendly American market, Microsoft only rarely beats Sony in raw monthly console sales numbers these days.<br />
That means, all things being equal, this console generation is much more likely to see a critical mass of your friends playing on Sony's PlayStation Network rather than on Microsoft's Xbox Live. If both online ecosystems are closed off from each other, more new console buyers are going to follow those friends to Sony's console if they want to play online. But in the world of cross-platform play Microsoft is proposing, the Xbox One might suddenly get a second look—especially since the system will give you access to a new Halo in addition to letting you play Call of Duty and Madden with all your PS4-owning friends.</p>
</blockquote><p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/03/why-microsoft-is-finally-pushing-for-cross-platform-online-gaming/">source</a></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Combining playerbases has some non-obvious benefits to Sony and Microsoft.  Niche games will last longer before dropping below the critical player threshold.  You don't have to spend millions on risky platform exclusive games, instead you have a much lower cost for platform exclusive gear/maps/content.  You also potentially increase the number of games available, and can tempt players who've stuck with other consoles because they won't lose their friends by switching.  </p>
<p>It all depends on how much the extra support and validation costs versus the potential savings and cross platform conquest from the above.  There should be a bunch of paper pushers somewhere in both companies trying to validate that case.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 19:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Durandal</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hahaha, I couldn't help myself. No there is money somewhere down the line. I mean that or they are saving face for the shit they pulled when they released the XBone. </p>
</blockquote><p>Wonder how the fanboys are going to react to the continued depreciation of the Xbone, considering how they reacted to news that the Xbox exclusives are headed to PC. This is not a move that adds value to the Xbone, but it does help save face. Makes one wonder how long of a lifespan Microsoft plans for the Xbone (assuming those &quot;optional hardware upgrades&quot; underwhelm).</p>
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Ultimately, I hate the fact that the things that would improve gamers experience, like cross-platform networking, is not good business for the companies. I'm also scared to see what will happen with exclusive content, because it will most likely be the next battlefield. And I hated exclusive content before this...</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, those were my same thought's just <a href="index.php?id=107347" class="internal">one thread over</a>.</p>
<p>Personally, I wouldn't care. I'd gladly pay a win-some-lose-some game of exclusives if it meant playing with friends across the board.<br />
Heck, I'd love one of our PS4 Trials teams to go up against Xbox people. :P</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 19:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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