My bet is that they were still sprinting into the wall, then when they jumped over it their shoulder charge was full.

Yeah, it looked they burned their shoulder charge before they hit the ground, but it was just Twilight Garrison. They kept that charged sprint glow the whole time.

-Disciple

I've already got the strike up for the Solar and Arc swords(lookin' your way, fellas!).

Me too. I've been sitting on the solar quest for a while, ready for the Sunless Cell part. How's your Sunday evening look? Anyone want to be a third?

Because seriously--how the hell does Bungie expect you to get thirty Radiance multi-kills?

lolwut

Or it could just be lag. Maybe they didn't actually travel the way that was shown on your screen.

ONE MATCH.

I've already got the strike up for the Solar and Arc swords(lookin' your way, fellas!).

I'm up to help you with any of those, by the way. As Meatloaf once said, "But I won't do Trials."

So yeah, Mayhem if you're solo, Year 1 Rumble for a team.

Because seriously--how the hell does Bungie expect you to get thirty Radiance multi-kills?

Now count all the times you accidentally rounded a corner and happened to be in Titan melee range without either of you holding a shotgun.

That's how many times Titans have an advantage in a straight up melee battle.

Count them? Isn't this entire conversation predicated on neither party having a shotgun? I don't care what class you are, if the other side is holding a shot gun, you dead. Do you often make eye contact with your opponent from 25 feet and then both charge each other?

Overall, I think the biggest problem with the Warlock melee is how it barely relies on your aim. Its range isn't really what's OP, but how much the aim lurches towards an enemy is.

I don't know if I totally agree with you on this...

Warlock melee is my panic button. If you get close to me, I'll mash like crazy while jumping like I'm a freaking slinky. And it works.

Try that with a Titan. See how much I'll laugh at you.

I haven't felt this too much, but I haven't played my warlock that much. But the fact that I totally understand what you mean regardless of that says a lot.

Warlock melee is my panic button. If you get close to me, I'll mash like crazy while jumping like I'm a freaking slinky. And it works.

Try that with a Titan. See how much I'll laugh at you.

Now, I am in the camp that thinks that Warlock melees are over sold, and titan melees are better than people think.
BUT, I think the idea is that since a titan charge can't START at melee range (even if it ends there) means that it isn't really a melee weapon. You don't back around a corner, find an enemy in your face, and start charging, it's just not possible. I believe Mac wants Titan's to be able to be dropped into a small pit with a hunter or warlock and have a better than not chance of winning.

Personally, I think that if a titan gets within it's melee range it should have an advantage. Because more often than not, if a titan gets within melee range it's already hurting or dead.

Why is this any more true of titans than other classes? If anything, a Titan's option speed and/or optional shield should enable a titan to close that distance better than any other character, right? I generally only use melee when I accidentally get too close to an enemy. I'd much prefer scout rifle range.

What about a Titan makes it look like it would be a good idea to go to hand to hand combat with them? This is what bugs me the most.

NOTHING about a titan makes me want to go hand to hand, which is why I magic-bitch-slap yo ass from 10 feet away ;-)
But in all seriousness, if a titan has a faster attack speed, and a titan and a warlock round a corner and find themselves toe to toe, the titan should win, yes? A warlock's only innate melee ability is the range, which is unhelpful if it goes to fisticuffs at point blank range.

Now count all the times you accidentally rounded a corner and happened to be in Titan melee range without either of you holding a shotgun.

That's how many times Titans have an advantage in a straight up melee battle.

Due to the range, a warlock will usually win melee battles. Furthermore, with charged melee powers, the warlock will almost always win, since the titan one only procs on kill.

So a Titan wins if the Titan doesn't start a melee fight at 10 feet when the enemy can see him coming... Of course, there are ways for a Titan to get around that, but they are specialized.

Now, I am in the camp that thinks that Warlock melees are over sold, and titan melees are better than people think.
BUT, I think the idea is that since a titan charge can't START at melee range (even if it ends there) means that it isn't really a melee weapon. You don't back around a corner, find an enemy in your face, and start charging, it's just not possible. I believe Mac wants Titan's to be able to be dropped into a small pit with a hunter or warlock and have a better than not chance of winning.

Personally, I think that if a titan gets within it's melee range it should have an advantage. Because more often than not, if a titan gets within melee range it's already hurting or dead.

Why is this any more true of titans than other classes? If anything, a Titan's option speed and/or optional shield should enable a titan to close that distance better than any other character, right? I generally only use melee when I accidentally get too close to an enemy. I'd much prefer scout rifle range.

What about a Titan makes it look like it would be a good idea to go to hand to hand combat with them? This is what bugs me the most.

NOTHING about a titan makes me want to go hand to hand, which is why I magic-bitch-slap yo ass from 10 feet away ;-)
But in all seriousness, if a titan has a faster attack speed, and a titan and a warlock round a corner and find themselves toe to toe, the titan should win, yes? A warlock's only innate melee ability is the range, which is unhelpful if it goes to fisticuffs at point blank range.