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I can confirm. (reply)

Funkmon — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 03:35:06 +0000

I did test this and didn't notice anything, but figured I was an idiot. I assumed that if they were different they were so substantially similar I didn't care.

Once I discovered during HoW that ammo perks were not created equally I made sure to extremely casually test all the ones I was interested in.

Grenade kills gain more super energy APPEARS to give you more than inverse shadow, IMO. But the frequency of use is sufficiently low it's not even worth considering.

Maybe their values are different? (reply)

Claude Errera — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 03:08:04 +0000

I must have had this thought a hundred times. So far, I have actually bothered to test it 0 times.

lol - my stats are identical to yours. :)

So the new perks are worse with no trade-offs? ¬¬ (reply)

ZackDark — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:45:05 +0000

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Maybe their values are different? (reply)

stabbim — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:41:30 +0000

I must have had this thought a hundred times. So far, I have actually bothered to test it 0 times.

Inverse Shadow vs Second Thoughts (reply)

electricpirate — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:22:39 +0000

I noticed for the first time last night that my favorite helmet (A. Symbiote) has both Inverse Shadow and Second Thoughts:

Inverse Shadow: increased Super energy gained from killing minions of the Darkness.

Second Thoughts: gain bonus Super energy from Special Weapon kills on minions of the Darkness.

It seems to me that they do the same thing (grant more super energy), but the first is by killing minions any ol' way, and the second is only by killing them with Special Weapons.

So... Why would I ever choose Second Thoughts over IS? Am I missing something in my interpretation? Is it strange that both perks would show up on the same piece of gear?

I think Datto did a video where all the "Gain super for x" gave as much value as inverse shadow. So basically, inverse shadow is flat out better, use that.

Maybe their values are different? (reply)

ZackDark — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 01:51:42 +0000

Common sense dictates Second Thought should grant more Super than Inverse Shadow. Who's up for some science?

Inverse Shadow vs Second Thoughts

Oholiab — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 01:41:13 +0000

I noticed for the first time last night that my favorite helmet (A. Symbiote) has both Inverse Shadow and Second Thoughts:

Inverse Shadow: increased Super energy gained from killing minions of the Darkness.

Second Thoughts: gain bonus Super energy from Special Weapon kills on minions of the Darkness.

It seems to me that they do the same thing (grant more super energy), but the first is by killing minions any ol' way, and the second is only by killing them with Special Weapons.

So... Why would I ever choose Second Thoughts over IS? Am I missing something in my interpretation? Is it strange that both perks would show up on the same piece of gear?