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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheap is maybe the wrong word. Not...solid or stable.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Vortech</dc:creator>
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<title>Results - Crucial Flaw! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I addressed that in the survey description. I'm starting with curved plastic.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Vortech</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree, and it&#039;s not close. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>My XBO controller had slightly a misaligned casing (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it felt super cheap, especially when the face buttons would stick. After a quick disassemble, dust off and reassemble, it got closer to the quality feel of the 360.</p>
<p>Today, I can definitely feel the left-bumper looser than the right-bumper, the left thumbstick has a bit of leeway in its springs, sometimes resting on enough offset to input a minor left movement and the Back/Start buttons look like they were supposed to be higher up when not pressed.</p>
<p>Overall, yes, I truly believe the regular XBO controller is cheaply made. The only problem I've had with my 360 controller is that the rubber on the thumbsticks &quot;melted&quot; off with constant use, but the &quot;new&quot; one is made of hard plastic instead, so it's pretty much perfect.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The XB1 controller doesn't feel cheap to me, at least compared to the DS4 (which I do like, BTW). Everything feels cheap compared to the Elite (and should, if you consider the price difference).</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah I agree, I honestly think the 360 controller feels cheaper than the XB1, but I am apparently in the minority.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Xenos</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Yes, but I'd be concerned with my ability to accurately hit those buttons on the right.  :)</p>
<p>Edit: and that being a nintendo controller I can almost guarantee it's too small for my non-trumpish hands.</p>
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Also, if you think the XB1 controller feels cheap, that Nintendo one feels like a 3rd party cheap controller compared to the XB1 controller.</p>
</blockquote><p>The XB1 controller doesn't feel cheap to me, at least compared to the DS4 (which I do like, BTW). Everything feels cheap compared to the Elite (and should, if you consider the price difference).</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, but I'd be concerned with my ability to accurately hit those buttons on the right.  :)</p>
<p>Edit: and that being a nintendo controller I can almost guarantee it's too small for my non-trumpish hands.</p>
</blockquote><p>Also, if you think the XB1 controller feels cheap, that Nintendo one feels like a 3rd party cheap controller compared to the XB1 controller.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Xenos</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>My thumb more comfortably lines up with the placement of the left stick on the xbox than the right one.  I'd rather have both sticks in that placement, but swapping the buttons &amp; the right stick makes hitting the buttons with any accuracy difficult (if accurately hitting the d-pad is any indication).</p>
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So...</p>
<p><img src="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41jK%2BTGzztL.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
</blockquote><p>Yes, but I'd be concerned with my ability to accurately hit those buttons on the right.  :)</p>
<p>Edit: and that being a nintendo controller I can almost guarantee it's too small for my non-trumpish hands.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 03:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Initially I disliked the placement of the left thumb stick on the DS4.  The thumbstick placement on the xbox controllers just seems to make more sense with todays games. </p>
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Why? For shooters, your thumbs both spend the majority of the time on the sticks. Why should their placement not be mirrored?</p>
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My thumb more comfortably lines up with the placement of the left stick on the xbox than the right one.  I'd rather have both sticks in that placement, but swapping the buttons &amp; the right stick makes hitting the buttons with any accuracy difficult (if accurately hitting the d-pad is any indication).</p>
</blockquote><p>So...</p>
<p><img src="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41jK%2BTGzztL.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 03:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Initially I disliked the placement of the left thumb stick on the DS4.  The thumbstick placement on the xbox controllers just seems to make more sense with todays games. </p>
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Why? For shooters, your thumbs both spend the majority of the time on the sticks. Why should their placement not be mirrored?</p>
</blockquote><p>My thumb more comfortably lines up with the placement of the left stick on the xbox than the right one.  I'd rather have both sticks in that placement, but swapping the buttons &amp; the right stick makes hitting the buttons with any accuracy difficult (if accurately hitting the d-pad is any indication).</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Initially I disliked the placement of the left thumb stick on the DS4.  The thumbstick placement on the xbox controllers just seems to make more sense with todays games. </p>
</blockquote><p>Why? For shooters, your thumbs both spend the majority of the time on the sticks. Why should their placement not be mirrored?</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 03:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<li>1. XB1 Elite  (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)<br />
</li><li>2. 360  loses to XB1 Elite by 16–9<br />
</li><li>3. XB1  loses to XB1 Elite by 18–6, loses to 360 by 16–7<br />
</li><li>4. DS4  loses to XB1 Elite by 18–8, loses to XB1 by 16–10</li></ul><p>I'm surprised by how high up the SNES is, and that the DS4 loses to a full two generations of Xbox controllers, given all the DS4 love that has been posted here.</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm surprised at that too.  Perhaps it's because we have so many more xbox players than ps4 players here on DBO?</p>
<p>I was a dedicated xbox user until the ps4 (and I decided to switch because family &amp; exclusives, yeah, I'm a jerk ;) ).  Initially I disliked the placement of the left thumb stick on the DS4.  The thumbstick placement on the xbox controllers just seems to make more sense with todays games.  After spending a little bit with it I've gotten used it it it doesn't bother me a bit, even when switching between my xbox(360/one) and my ps4.</p>
<p>What really shocked me is that the DS4 lost out to the XB1 controller.  XB1 just feels so flimsy compared to the 360 &amp; DS4.  I'd love to use an Elite if anyone wants to donate one to me.  :)</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<title>Results - Crucial Flaw! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I just found a crucial flaw in your survey, it didn't include the Atari 2600 joystick &amp; paddles!  ;-)</p>
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Or the NES controller!</p>
</blockquote><p>Lol, how could I forget that one too.  NES Advantage FTW!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<title>Results - Crucial Flaw! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I just found a crucial flaw in your survey, it didn't include the Atari 2600 joystick &amp; paddles!  ;-)</p>
</blockquote><p>Or the NES controller!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<title>Results - Crucial Flaw! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found a crucial flaw in your survey, it didn't include the Atari 2600 joystick &amp; paddles!  ;-)</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<title>What are those number? (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>Results (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept it to just DBO because you're who I care about (and because posting a poll with my email address on it to someplace like reddit seemed like an unworthy risk)</p>
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<li>1. XB1 Elite  (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)<br />
</li><li>2. 360  loses to XB1 Elite by 16–9<br />
</li><li>3. XB1  loses to XB1 Elite by 18–6, loses to 360 by 16–7<br />
</li><li>4. DS4  loses to XB1 Elite by 18–8, loses to XB1 by 16–10<br />
</li><li>5. Xbox S-Type  loses to XB1 Elite by 20–5, loses to DS4 by 16–9<br />
</li><li>6. The Duke  loses to XB1 Elite by 18–5, loses to Xbox S-Type by 16–8<br />
</li><li>7. Tied:<br />
</li><li>Super NES  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–4, loses to The Duke by 13–8<br />
</li><li>Gamecube  loses to XB1 Elite by 20–5, loses to The Duke by 13–10<br />
</li><li>9. N64  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–4, loses to Super NES by 14–7<br />
</li><li>10. Wii (inc. nunchuck)  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–2, loses to N64 by 11–10<br />
</li><li>11. Dreamcast  loses to XB1 Elite by 19–4, loses to Wii (inc. nunchuck) by 9–7<br />
</li><li>12. Genesis 6 button  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–2, loses to Dreamcast by 10–6<br />
</li><li>13. Genesis 3 button  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–2, loses to Genesis 6 button by 10–4<br />
</li><li>14. Dualshock  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–2, loses to Genesis 3 button by 10–7<br />
</li><li>15. Saturn  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–0, loses to Genesis 3 button by 11–2<br />
</li><li>16. 3DO  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–0, loses to Saturn by 5–3<br />
</li><li>17. DS3  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–2, loses to 3DO by 7–6<br />
</li><li>18. DS 2  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–2, loses to DS3 by 7–6<br />
</li><li>19. NEO GEO  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–1, loses to DS 2 by 7–5<br />
</li><li>20. Saturn Discus  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–0, loses to DS 2 by 6–5<br />
</li><li>21. Wii U Skateboard  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–1, loses to Saturn Discus by 6–4<br />
</li><li>22. PSX  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–0, loses to Saturn Discus by 5–4<br />
</li><li>23. PS 3 Boomerang  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–1, loses to PSX by 6–4<br />
</li><li>24. Applejack  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–0, loses to PS 3 Boomerang by 6–2<br />
</li><li>25. Jaguar  loses to XB1 Elite by 21–0, loses to Applejack by 4–3</li></ul><p>I'm surprised by how high up the SNES is, and that the DS4 loses to a full two generations of Xbox controllers, given all the DS4 love that has been posted here.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Vortech</dc:creator>
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<title>God I miss Halo LAN parties (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from a Halo 3 LAN party with my old roommates and their families...  I've lost my halo skills because of Destiny.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 01:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<title>I&#039;m shocked someone has used the Applejack. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's a fair criticism, but I listed every gamepad I could think of.  I was fully expecting many of them to be unfamiliar to people.  That's also why I chose the poll sorting setup I did.  (Well, that and I have to feel like that PolSci degree has some impact on my life occasionally.)  </p>
<p>Anyway, I didn't mean to make anyone feel uninitiated.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2016 09:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Vortech</dc:creator>
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<title>You better have a good connection (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2016 05:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Blackt1g3r</dc:creator>
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