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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There has been a lot of talk recently about the decay of method acting in Hollywood. It is now about ego, about visibly showing the dedication to acting, and such displays garner awards. But I think it extends to the audience too. Does knowing Leo went through hellish conditions color your view of his performance?</p>
<p>Let me ask you this. Imagine that you know nothing about No Man's Sky. You are completely unaware of the procedural generation. You have no clue there are 16 quintillion planets. You have no idea it was made by 4 people. All you know about the game is what's presented as you play… as far as you are concerned this planet you start on was created like any other space in video games.</p>
<p>Would you still be impressed?</p>
</blockquote><p>I would be fucking FLOORED.  Seriously, you can just point yourself in a direction and walk.  For hours.  And there will constantly be new things popping up all around you to explore.  Designing a single world of that size in the traditional way would have taken someone years upon years to complete.  And then you go into space and there aren't just more worlds in your system to visit, but billions of other systems!?!!  Holy fuck.  Ho-leee fuuuuuuck.</p>
<p>This game is a watershed moment in video game design.  It's a landmark.  A triumph.  An incredible achievement.</p>
<p>And - contrary to the very loud hype monsters - it's really, really fun.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 06:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Kahzgul</dc:creator>
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<p>I'm sorry.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>stabbim</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>you can take a urinal, put it in a museum and it becomes art.</p>
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If you are incredibly pretentious.</p>
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I say as someone who went to art school...</p>
<p>Of course it is, it's art!</p>
</blockquote><p>It's also <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)">something</a>! <span style="font-size:large;"><strong>YAY ART</strong></span>*<span style="font-size:large;"><strong>!</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#c0c0c0;"><span style="font-size:smaller;">Must. Resist. Urge. To. Rant. On. Internet. on. Art. ....*<a href="index.php?id=58650" class="internal"><span style="color:#c0c0c0;">gerrbrele</span></a>*</span></span></p>
<p>*The Buzzword</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>INSANEdrive</dc:creator>
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<title>Woah man, thats like so deep, its like a metaphor for people (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Pyromancy</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the can is empty, is it more or less artistic than if the can is actually full?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Which is why you can take a urinal, put it in a museum and it becomes art.  </p>
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But is that art momentary, or lasting? Seems to me once you know the gimmick of the urinal it's fun for two seconds but then ceases to be. Context can be important, but the things that give the most pleasure are the ones where that comes from the work itself mostly.</p>
<p>You can know nothing about the politics of the 1930s and 1940s and still enjoy a good film noir.</p>
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that damn toilet was from 1917 and we still talk about it... so sure!</p>
</blockquote><p>Oh shit…</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 06:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>He did say &quot;enjoy&quot; :p (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>No art speaks entirely for itself (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Which is why you can take a urinal, put it in a museum and it becomes art.  </p>
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But is that art momentary, or lasting? Seems to me once you know the gimmick of the urinal it's fun for two seconds but then ceases to be. Context can be important, but the things that give the most pleasure are the ones where that comes from the work itself mostly.</p>
<p>You can know nothing about the politics of the 1930s and 1940s and still enjoy a good film noir.</p>
</blockquote><p>that damn toilet was from 1917 and we still talk about it... so sure!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>electricpirate</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Which is why you can take a urinal, put it in a museum and it becomes art.  </p>
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But is that art momentary, or lasting? Seems to me once you know the gimmick of the urinal it's fun for two seconds but then ceases to be. Context can be important, but the things that give the most pleasure are the ones where that comes from the work itself mostly.</p>
<p>You can know nothing about the politics of the 1930s and 1940s and still enjoy a good film noir.</p>
</blockquote><p>Is anybody arguing that NMS is a game for the ages? Feels like you're moving the goalposts.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Which is why you can take a urinal, put it in a museum and it becomes art.  </p>
</blockquote><p>But is that art momentary, or lasting? Seems to me once you know the gimmick of the urinal it's fun for two seconds but then ceases to be. Context can be important, but the things that give the most pleasure are the ones where that comes from the work itself mostly.</p>
<p>You can know nothing about the politics of the 1930s and 1940s and still enjoy a good film noir.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>you can take a urinal, put it in a museum and it becomes art.</p>
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If you are incredibly pretentious.</p>
</blockquote><p>I say as someone who went to art school...</p>
<p>Of course it is, it's art!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>electricpirate</dc:creator>
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<title>Holy crap. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>The opposite is also fun... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kermit's reply is kind of like an anti-summary. He takes the best thoughts of those who disagree with Cody and adds more words.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
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<p>Thanks for ruining my life. Can never unsee.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>The opposite is also fun... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the first post in any thread, then try to guess how the conversation goes just by reading the usernames of those responding :)</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<title>Everyone starts using Gizoogle :P (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>and b) our foreknowledge of your usual agenda. I find the irony of b funny.</p>
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Ha. Good point. Imagine how differently we all might have treated an unknown poster's musings. I know some of the admins 'round here. Maybe I can arrange a debate month where all our names are scrambled (or set to variants of Taylor Swift songs, most likely) so we can see how these kinds of discussions would go with less history and bias dragging them down. :p</p>
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Heh. Don't think it would work. We know each others' voices.</p>
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This was my response, too. :)</p>
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I would bet that I could alter my style enough to hide :-p</p>
</blockquote><p>Well,  with you it's not so much your style as your obsessions. We'd be like, &quot;Hey Cody! We see you under there!&quot; ;)</p>
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<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>and b) our foreknowledge of your usual agenda. I find the irony of b funny.</p>
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Ha. Good point. Imagine how differently we all might have treated an unknown poster's musings. I know some of the admins 'round here. Maybe I can arrange a debate month where all our names are scrambled (or set to variants of Taylor Swift songs, most likely) so we can see how these kinds of discussions would go with less history and bias dragging them down. :p</p>
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Heh. Don't think it would work. We know each others' voices.</p>
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This was my response, too. :)</p>
</blockquote><p>I would bet that I could alter my style enough to hide :-p</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Wow, I&#039;ve never noticed till now, so consistent. (reply)</title>
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