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<title>SSD or bust (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung T3 external USB SSD up to 2TB.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>ShadowDancing</dc:creator>
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<title>Agreed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those things provide the best refrigerator magnets you'll ever find. Just watch your fingers when putting them on (seriously).</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>stabbim</dc:creator>
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<title>Take &#039;em apart! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I literally have a box full of broken Seagates, though.  (Stupid hard to get to waste recyclers...)</p>
</blockquote><p>Hard drive magnets are ridiculously strong and the platters just fun to mess with.  Old hard drives are much more useful in pieces :)</p>
<p>-Disciple</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>As long as we&#039;re giving anecdotes (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been buying WD red drives for my NAS  for a few years and I fill the drives before they fail.  I literally have a box full of broken Seagates, though.  (Stupid hard to get to waste recyclers...)</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2017 04:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Vortech</dc:creator>
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<title>I must be lucky (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I'm going to be in the market for a new set of NAS drives later this year, so I'll definitely be checking out the HGST offerings.</p>
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Shouldn't you stagger your purchase of NAS drives to reduce the risk of concurrent failures?  Regarding the W.A.F. I find it a lot easier to justify a drive upgrade every now &amp; then instead of dropping $500-800 on a whole set of drives. ;)</p>
</blockquote><p>Here at work we've had more or less the same NAS setup for almost ten years. with periodical data transfer to external drives. All WD, without a single HD failure.</p>
<p>Heck, my computer had three WD drives, with the primary being from 2004, and by the time the CPU gave out in 2014, the same old drive was still going strong.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<title>I must be lucky (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I'm going to be in the market for a new set of NAS drives later this year, so I'll definitely be checking out the HGST offerings.</p>
</blockquote><p>Shouldn't you stagger your purchase of NAS drives to reduce the risk of concurrent failures?  Regarding the W.A.F. I find it a lot easier to justify a drive upgrade every now &amp; then instead of dropping $500-800 on a whole set of drives. ;)</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 21:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<title>I must be lucky (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is true, but between drives branded Western Digital and Drives branded Hitachi / HGST, I've noticed a huge difference.</p>
<p>I'm not imagining it either:</p>
<p><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/hgst-hard-disks-still-super-reliable-seagates-have-greatly-improved/">https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/hgst-hard-disks-still-super-reliable-seagates-have-greatly-imp...</a></p>
<p>WD drives are literally the worst.</p>
</blockquote><p>Been a while since I checked the Backblaze drive reliability reports, but it looks like Seagate has really <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/05/one-billion-hours-on-and-hgst-still-rules-the-roost-for-hard-disk-reliability/">cleaned up their act</a> over the last couple years. Fortunately, being owned by WD hasn't seemed to affect the quality of HGST drives. :) I'm going to be in the market for a new set of NAS drives later this year, so I'll definitely be checking out the HGST offerings.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 21:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Beorn</dc:creator>
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<title>Not &quot;or bust&quot;. Hybrids generally perform better with console (reply)</title>
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Yeah at the point that I'm splurging for a another HD, I might as well get the fastest. I'm a bit ruthless about my space anyways. Also my experience is with my XB1, I haven't needed another HD for my PS4 yet... I feel like by the time I do, I'll just get the Pro.</p>
</blockquote><p>That's what I did.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
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<title>Much pleased by the speed increase. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same experience for me. Even though the OS itself is still running off of the internal drive, with my games running from the external, the internal drive is less bogged down. So I found that during times when the games are loading or otherwise accessing storage heavily, previously the XBox dashboard/menus would become extremely sluggish. With the games on a separate drive, this is much less so.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>stabbim</dc:creator>
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<title>Much pleased by the speed increase. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>Not &quot;or bust&quot;. Hybrids generally perform better with console (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>I recall numerous tests (easily youtube-able) that determined that Hybrids gave a better overall performance, and the price gave them the edge over SSDs. Sure, as an external there is less issue with durability SSD-wise, but I'm not eager to fork over $1k for a more durable external storage. ;)</p>
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I'm just going to jump in and bust your balls for referencing &quot;easily YouTube-able&quot; videos without actually including them to provide your point. Just because that's what you'd do in my place ;p</p>
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Heh, I have a valid excuse for the rare occurence of me not backing up what I say with evidence, but fair enough, I can pull a Cody every once in a while, given my record. :P</p>
<p>I'll do you one better than linking random videos; <a href="http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-ps4-hard-drive-upgrade-guide">an extensive article by Eurogamer</a>. Their results skew a bit more towards the SSD in speed, but only marginally faster than a hybrid in most cases, and definitely not worth the cost...</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah at the point that I'm splurging for a another HD, I might as well get the fastest. I'm a bit ruthless about my space anyways. Also my experience is with my XB1, I haven't needed another HD for my PS4 yet... I feel like by the time I do, I'll just get the Pro.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 18:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<title>What about menu load time? (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 08:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>You *do* know... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>WD drives are literally the worst.</p>
</blockquote><p>This is my experience as well. Western Digital bought SanDisk last year and I have become concerned about SanDisks long term product quality. I'm hoping they operate independently of eachother and it was more of an in name only type of deal.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 06:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Pyromancy</dc:creator>
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<title>ok, you&#039;re forgiven... just this once ;p (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I don't think that the console's operating system is really designed to handle an ssd. It might not be a good idea.</p>
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All of my games on the Xbox One are on an SSD. Boot-up of games is much, much faster than it was before. (Destiny, for example, takes a couple of seconds to get to the splash screen.)  I have not had any problems since install (many months ago).</p>
</blockquote><p>Good to know. I remember reading to use caution when installing an SSD n a console. Maybe it's been long enough that the console makers have caught up with software updates.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don't think that the console's operating system is really designed to handle an ssd. It might not be a good idea.</p>
</blockquote><p>All of my games on the Xbox One are on an SSD. Boot-up of games is much, much faster than it was before. (Destiny, for example, takes a couple of seconds to get to the splash screen.)  I have not had any problems since install (many months ago).</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>Any impact on load speed? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don't be. The (theoretical) transfer rate of USB 3.0 is nearly as high as 3rd-generation SATA, and certainly high enough that it's not going to impact the speed of a platter-based mechanical hard drive.</p>
</blockquote><p>USB is has always been worse than its rated speed though for a variety or reasons. It requires the CPU to be the bus master, it is only half duplex, and the data transfer is not isochronous. This is why firewire 400 would always beat USB2 in the real world, despite it being rated 80 Mbits slower.</p>
<p>It actually could matter in a spinning disk because of the CPU overhead for a usb device. I've seen slower transfer rates from the usb 3 port vs the thunderbolt port on the same drive often.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>You *do* know... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Western Digital always lets me down. I only trust Hitachi. In fact when I upgraded to a 7200rpm drive for the PS4 I got a Hitachi. WD and Seagate always seem to fail on me at one point or another.</p>
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...that Hitachi (HGST) is owned by Western Digital, right? Since 2011.</p>
<p>WD/HGST is hands-down the most reliable drive brand <em>for me</em> these days. I have dozens of drives that I maintain, and the WDs have been bullet-proof.</p>
<p><em><span style="font-size:smaller;">Edit: added qualifier</span></em></p>
</blockquote><p>This is true, but between drives branded Western Digital and Drives branded Hitachi / HGST, I've noticed a huge difference.</p>
<p>I'm not imagining it either:</p>
<p><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/hgst-hard-disks-still-super-reliable-seagates-have-greatly-improved/">https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/hgst-hard-disks-still-super-reliable-seagates-have-greatly-imp...</a></p>
<p>WD drives are literally the worst.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 04:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Thanks for the tips (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ended up getting a 3TB version of this model for $130 CAD (35% discount).</p>
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<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think that the console's operating system is really designed to handle an ssd. It might not be a good idea.</p>
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<category>Gaming</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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