Yeah, PlayStation needlessly asks you to confirm that you want to do what you just did. It's like with their updates. When I first got a PS3, I couldn't get over obsessed they are with confirmation buttons. Do you want to download this update? Confirm. Oh, you want to install this update you just downloaded? Confirm.

Remember when you could be playing your games within seconds?

http://bombingtheuniverse.net/movies/quickstart.mov

Literally 5 seconds after I turn on the system I can play.

Today, we have the console OS boot. Then we have to select the game to launch. Then we have to go through splash screens and shit. With hardware thousands of times more powerful, why are we waiting longer?! Splash screens and logos are particularly stupid because they are 100% avoidable. Save that shit for the credits after you beat the game. It should immediately load the title screen.

Thanks for getting me riled up about modern design stupidity.

You're welcome. I will say I tend to leave my consoles in rest mode, which speeds up the start process. Launching Destiny is the bottleneck. One hopes that not having to support last gen speeds up Destiny 2. I don't mind logos and whatnot if they're skippable.

The number of times I've had problems with both platforms' websites is inexcusable given the cost of their services. We deserve better.

Yeah, PlayStation needlessly asks you to confirm that you want to do what you just did. It's like with their updates. When I first got a PS3, I couldn't get over obsessed they are with confirmation buttons. Do you want to download this update? Confirm. Oh, you want to install this update you just downloaded? Confirm.

Remember when you could be playing your games within seconds?

http://bombingtheuniverse.net/movies/quickstart.mov

Literally 5 seconds after I turn on the system I can play.

Today, we have the console OS boot. Then we have to select the game to launch. Then we have to go through splash screens and shit. With hardware thousands of times more powerful, why are we waiting longer?! Splash screens and logos are particularly stupid because they are 100% avoidable. Save that shit for the credits after you beat the game. It should immediately load the title screen.

Thanks for getting me riled up about modern design stupidity.

Xbox.com is broken today. PlayStation.com has been broken for me plenty. I'm usually on my lunch hour, trying to do something that should take 60 seconds. (Again, who else in 2017 has a loading screen for their website?) I remain convinced they both suck.

Yeah, I realize that in Kornyworld everything playstation is wonderful and everything Xbox is shit. I'll say it again--they both suck.

You're the one using a Mac, man... ;)

My problems have been on a windows machine. I thought I said that. It happens that when I think to go there, I'm usually sitting in front of a windows machine. My assumption is that it's worse on a mac. Most wonky websites are. I resent that I have to go there at all--a problem you acknowledge.

At least use Firefox. I can almost guarantee that those Windoze problems aren't something other folks are seeing.

I've tried using I.E., Chrome, and Firefox. PlayStation.com is flakey and ugly.

Yeah, I realize that in Kornyworld everything playstation is wonderful and everything Xbox is shit. I'll say it again--they both suck.

Unlike some folks, I actually like to bring evidence to the table when I make a claim. So I booted up a screen recorder, and tried to download some games from both sites.

First, I went to the Xbox store, and tried to download the recently-released Prey demo:

No idea what happened the first time, but the second time seems about right.

Then I went to the Playstation homepage (logged in as my brother, since I already have the games), and in under a minute, had the free games page located, and three games downloaded; without any of those evil windoze...

I just spit the truth, man. See for yourself.

Yeah, I realize that in Kornyworld everything playstation is wonderful and everything Xbox is shit. I'll say it again--they both suck.

You're the one using a Mac, man... ;)

At least use Firefox. I can almost guarantee that those Windoze problems aren't something other folks are seeing.

I've never used either website to download games... I just do it on the XBox dashboard. There is always a "games with gold" on the side that lists them all off for me. So basically I've never had a problem :D

The top left of the Crossbar on a PS4 is dedicated to PS+ (the free games, Plus exclusive deals, your free game library, etc...), but it doesn't list the PS3/Vita games that are crossbuy, which is my biggest complaint (if you pull up those games in the console store, they do show up as free, but they don't advertise that).

As far as the website goes, I just type "Free PS+ games" into google every month, and it's literally the first link. I just add all of the games to the cart at once, and check out. I don't know if that link auto-updates every month, but I've never bothered bookmarking it, since typing it on the address bar is just as fast.

Good tip. You still get that stupid loading page, though.

I just get a loading pop-up. I click confirm, and continue to put each game in the cart. Maybe it's extra annoying on a Mac?

Nope. Windoze. I'm talking about the loading pages you get just by trying to load in the store. The pop-up you get trying to log in doesn't even work half the time for me. I've given up and used the phone app.

The xbox.com experience is horrible today. A similar Games with Gold link takes you to the games. When I clicked on them, it prompted me to buy, which I thought was weird because I've already got the licenses. I noticed that as soon as I entered the Microsoft Store context, the site logged me out. Grrr.

Back when I'd try to get my GWG games, on top of everything, it would always prompt me to send for a verification code, in an attempt to get me to use Microsoft's two-step verification crap. The few times that I considered giving in, it always said that the service was unavailable. It became enough of a thousand cuts that I slowly stopped even checking the free games since odds are it was Pool Nation FX for the tenth month in a row (Xbone was usually unplugged, so I'd just build the library through the website)...

Yeah, I realize that in Kornyworld everything playstation is wonderful and everything Xbox is shit. I'll say it again--they both suck.

I've never used either website to download games... I just do it on the XBox dashboard. There is always a "games with gold" on the side that lists them all off for me. So basically I've never had a problem :D

The top left of the Crossbar on a PS4 is dedicated to PS+ (the free games, Plus exclusive deals, your free game library, etc...), but it doesn't list the PS3/Vita games that are crossbuy, which is my biggest complaint (if you pull up those games in the console store, they do show up as free, but they don't advertise that).

As far as the website goes, I just type "Free PS+ games" into google every month, and it's literally the first link. I just add all of the games to the cart at once, and check out. I don't know if that link auto-updates every month, but I've never bothered bookmarking it, since typing it on the address bar is just as fast.

Good tip. You still get that stupid loading page, though.

I just get a loading pop-up. I click confirm, and continue to put each game in the cart. Maybe it's extra annoying on a Mac?

The xbox.com experience is horrible today. A similar Games with Gold link takes you to the games. When I clicked on them, it prompted me to buy, which I thought was weird because I've already got the licenses. I noticed that as soon as I entered the Microsoft Store context, the site logged me out. Grrr.

Back when I'd try to get my GWG games, on top of everything, it would always prompt me to send for a verification code, in an attempt to get me to use Microsoft's two-step verification crap. The few times that I considered giving in, it always said that the service was unavailable. It became enough of a thousand cuts that I slowly stopped even checking the free games since odds are it was Pool Nation FX for the tenth month in a row (Xbone was usually unplugged, so I'd just build the library through the website)...

I've never used either website to download games... I just do it on the XBox dashboard. There is always a "games with gold" on the side that lists them all off for me. So basically I've never had a problem :D

The top left of the Crossbar on a PS4 is dedicated to PS+ (the free games, Plus exclusive deals, your free game library, etc...), but it doesn't list the PS3/Vita games that are crossbuy, which is my biggest complaint (if you pull up those games in the console store, they do show up as free, but they don't advertise that).

As far as the website goes, I just type "Free PS+ games" into google every month, and it's literally the first link. I just add all of the games to the cart at once, and check out. I don't know if that link auto-updates every month, but I've never bothered bookmarking it, since typing it on the address bar is just as fast.

Good tip. You still get that stupid loading page, though. I had the habit of going to playstation.com, then going to the store. Now I see the plus games are to the right of the store button, so I could just choose that and be there. And today PSN likes me and recognizes the cookie that has me logged in. If I have to log in, all bets are off.

The xbox.com experience is horrible today. A similar Games with Gold link takes you to the games. When I clicked on them, it prompted me to buy, which I thought was weird because I've already got the licenses. I noticed that as soon as I entered the Microsoft Store context, the site logged me out. Grrr.

I've found the Xbox website behaves a LOT better on Microsoft Edge, so now it's the sole thing other than Netflix I use on that damn browser.

I've never used either website to download games... I just do it on the XBox dashboard. There is always a "games with gold" on the side that lists them all off for me. So basically I've never had a problem :D

The top left of the Crossbar on a PS4 is dedicated to PS+ (the free games, Plus exclusive deals, your free game library, etc...), but it doesn't list the PS3/Vita games that are crossbuy, which is my biggest complaint (if you pull up those games in the console store, they do show up as free, but they don't advertise that).

As far as the website goes, I just type "Free PS+ games" into google every month, and it's literally the first link. I just add all of the games to the cart at once, and check out. I don't know if that link auto-updates every month, but I've never bothered bookmarking it, since typing it on the address bar is just as fast.

At least XBL shows you all offerings on the Xbox (I know it makes sense for them--they have no mobile games and their 360 games are backwards compatible).

I despise the PSN website. What a finicky piece of crap.

Really? I love it.

The Xbox website has always sucked, though.

But you don't really need the XBox website in order to do anything. By any modern online retail standard, they both suck. Also, PSN rarely loads correctly the first time in any browser I have, doesn't keep me logged in, sometimes doesn't even let me log in, and is as slow as molasses. When you go to the store, the interface changes completely. Free games are buried (I wouldn't mind clicking so many times if I weren't each time taken to an honest-to-God loading screen for a fricking web page). Games are often listed twice, even if it's a cross-buy deal. If you buy one version it doesn't tell you can't buy the other until you try to buy the other, and it doesn't tell you why you can't buy the other.

On the positive side, going to and using the PSN store through the iPhone Playstation app is reasonably easy.

At least XBL shows you all offerings on the Xbox (I know it makes sense for them--they have no mobile games and their 360 games are backwards compatible).

I despise the PSN website. What a finicky piece of crap.

Really? I love it.

The Xbox website has always sucked, though.

I despise the PSN website. What a finicky piece of crap.

Link to PS Plus games page

Be sure to check out all of the PS+ games every month, not just the ones for PS4. Many of the PS3/Vita games are crossbuy, meaning that you get them for PS4 as well (sometimes even down the road when a remaster is made available, a la Journey).

Is it possible to see any of that on the PS4? I never check PS+ anywhere but through the storefront on the PS4, and it's not showing anything but the actual PS4 games.

Most of my commentary on this one was "oh look a manatee." Who were adorable.

I think this game is a less is more approach, and I like let's plays to primarily be a way for people to play a game without buying it. So me being quiet is nbd. I envision someone searching YouTube for abzu let's play and clicking my thing as it's a single video to watch the game. I don't spend much time talking over it, I just let it happen and quietly mumble that I'm an idiot.

Link to PS Plus games page

... if a certain recent Playdead game left you feeling disappointed...

unpossible.