Love ya, Raga, but I can't relate (and I've tried). There were probably technical reasons as well as business reasons for limiting the alpha to the PS4. I can understand disappointment and jealousy and railing against exclusivity in the video game industry as a problem. I can't understand treating it like a personal betrayal by Bungie. The alpha access was a very short-lived bonus.

It was a crappy thing to do to their fan base. I don't think really disputable.

I get the technical side. It may have been the most important factor. I get the financial/deal making side too. But Bungie didn't have to use Bungie Day to announce that a large group of their eager fans would have to watch the other group play first. I would not have been anywhere near as angry if we'd know that there would be an exclusive Alpha for as long as we knew there'd be a preorder based Beta. They could have told us long before they did. Or a day after they did. But no, they choose the exact wrong day to reveal that info.

The way they announced things this time was much better. Instead of keeping some things secret until just the wrong time, they announced all the dates together. On principle, I'm still not happy that my dollars and my preorder is worth a day less than a PS4 owners, but at least they were up front about it this time. That means a whole lot to me. It shows more respect. It shows they learned.

Anyway, I didn't bring all this up because I'm still mad. I did it more to poke some fun at myself. That's why in this same thread I made sure to link to my post of me preordering the Ghost Edition five hours later. And the thing is, I don't regret either of those posts and I stand fully behind them. :)

Love ya, Raga, but I can't relate (and I've tried). There were probably technical reasons as well as business reasons for limiting the alpha to the PS4. I can understand disappointment and jealousy and railing against exclusivity in the video game industry as a problem. I can't understand treating it like a personal betrayal by Bungie. The alpha access was a very short-lived bonus.

The worst part about exclusives seems to be their reveal. Or, the anticipation. For example, once XBox got access to the previous exclusives (i.e. the 1st round exclusives like Hawkmoon) I found out I did not care.

And I never cared. I mean I almost always played strikes as part of a playlist, so on the PS4 I'd get an exclusive strike every once in a while and think: this is something I haven't played very often. But I never recall missing anything on the Xbox. It might have been different if I'd become attached to the exclusive exotic or something, but half the time I didn't get those anyway.

It's Comic-Con; if you're not spending unfortunate amounts of money you're doing it wrong :)

Yea. I guess.

So what is the going rate for internetz in hotels these days? Or... do you use a hotspot? O_O

No hotspot; I think it was actually a wired connection in the room. Not speedy but I don't recall it being overly expensive. Just as with Schedonnardus, it needed the first night just to download.

That is surprising. I would expect the upstream/downstream to be fairly tame for video usage at max.

I'm ignoring the idea that just popped in my head about using public wifi. The Horror.

Public Wifi is a joke at Comic-Con. It exists but is so swamped by 150,000 people that it's effectively broken. The cell networks get overwhelmed too - I think it was the same Con when Destiny launched that the cell companies had to deploy special trucks to add capacity.

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I was naively unaware that many people actually use public wifi. Dat ping doe.

Also - lordy, I hope those people use a VPN. Yet... I know. Ugh. The Horror.

So unlike what I did with some of the other E3 conference stuffs, I've jumped the gun for the Sony conference, because Dest2ny. Since Destiny is kind of our bag around here, I figured that if anything awesome does happen during the Bungie portion of the Sony conference, we'll just plunk it down here. I'll follow up the conference with what I've been doing for the other bits too.

See ya'll on the other side. :)

End of July just happens to be very open for me, squeezed in between family vacation and a 2-week business trip.

Still very much looking forward to it. The new Ghaul trailer was very good, and very neatly gives us something to hate.

One question: what will be the life/death/resurrection mechanic without light? I know it's mostly meta, but the whole ghost-reviving-with-light worked nicely, especially during "Darkness" spots where resurrection could not happen.

I loved Ghaul's "you've merely learned to not fear death..." or whatever; it's kinda true. Courage isn't courage if you've got no repercussions to fear.

Dying sends you to the Character Creator screen. You spawn in a random spot, and have to work your way back to your old Guardian's body to recover the loot.

So what is the going rate for internetz in hotels these days? Or... do you use a hotspot? O_O

No hotspot; I think it was actually a wired connection in the room. Not speedy but I don't recall it being overly expensive. Just as with Schedonnardus, it needed the first night just to download.

I'm ignoring the idea that just popped in my head about using public wifi. The Horror.

Public Wifi is a joke at Comic-Con. It exists but is so swamped by 150,000 people that it's effectively broken. The cell networks get overwhelmed too - I think it was the same Con when Destiny launched that the cell companies had to deploy special trucks to add capacity.

I have to say though that the video was super cliche. The music, dialogue, all of it.

That's why it was awesome.

The Beta is during San Diego Comic Con AGAIN. This happened for D1 also. This is literally the one week per year I won't have any sort of access to a console.

I don't see Sony on the list of official Exhibitors, but in years past they and Microsoft have had a presence (although I've missed the last couple of years). Perhaps they're still setting up something in a nearby hotel - if so I'd expect playable beta setups from Sony. You'll miss out on any exclusive emblems, though. For that you'll need someone to log in with your account.

Of course you can always do what I did the last time around and bring your console with you - at least this time around the Xbox Slim is smaller and has no power brick :). I ended up shipping mine to the hotel in advance just to have room in my luggage.

So what is the going rate for internetz in hotels these days? Or... do you use a hotspot? O_O

I'm ignoring the idea that just poped in my head about using public wifi. The Horror. >_<

Either way, title.

The Beta is during San Diego Comic Con AGAIN. This happened for D1 also. This is literally the one week per year I won't have any sort of access to a console.

I don't see Sony on the list of official Exhibitors, but in years past they and Microsoft have had a presence (although I've missed the last couple of years). Perhaps they're still setting up something in a nearby hotel - if so I'd expect playable beta setups from Sony. You'll miss out on any exclusive emblems, though. For that you'll need someone to log in with your account.

Of course you can always do what I did the last time around and bring your console with you - at least this time around the Xbox Slim is smaller and has no power brick :). I ended up shipping mine to the hotel in advance just to have room in my luggage.

X - Looks cool.
X - Sounds cool.
X - Cold blooded.
X - Has a goal he believes is righteous.
X - Driven by entitlement.

"You're not brave. You've merely forgotten the fear of death. Allow me to reacquaint you." As he boots a head and turns his back.

That is a bad ass line.

Open Beta July 21st, PC release October 24th

Could we get a count down for the Beta? Maybe link it to a persons fireteam builder preference? Or... Keep it simple and just PS4 00-00-00 / X1 00-00-00 / OPEN 00-00-00 some where on site? Then after all that is done have it switch to the countdown for Launch with consoles, then finally PC.

That would be sweet.

Edit: Clarified Title.

September 6 is the new release date on all consoles

So they moved it from a Friday slot (September 8th)... to a Wednesday slot? WHY!? I mean, shoot, two days earlier, Sweet! Yet, I still find myself scratchen my head here wondering why the move.

Love ya, Raga, but I can't relate (and I've tried). There were probably technical reasons as well as business reasons for limiting the alpha to the PS4. I can understand disappointment and jealousy and railing against exclusivity in the video game industry as a problem. I can't understand treating it like a personal betrayal by Bungie. The alpha access was a very short-lived bonus.

The worst part about exclusives seems to be their reveal. Or, the anticipation. For example, once XBox got access to the previous exclusives (i.e. the 1st round exclusives like Hawkmoon) I found out I did not care.

As an XB user for example, I'm grateful that it's only a 1 day difference between PS and XB for the Beta.

Wait.

Do I have Stockholm Syndrome?