DBO Forums - Overuse of Sabotage is going to ruin it for me. https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/ Bungie.Org talks Destiny en Overuse of Sabotage is going to ruin it for me. (reply) Otherwise it was fun. I stopped thinking of the live action trailers as a thing about the game, and more a fun thing Bungie wanted to do.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136984 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136984 Mon, 04 Sep 2017 07:11:58 +0000 DestinyVortech
I didn't know it was a comedy. (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136909 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136909 Sat, 02 Sep 2017 15:54:50 +0000 DestinyDEEP_NNN Kong: Skull Island (reply) FYI. It was directed by the same guy who did this.

A film which is widely known for its passable direction and horrendous editing.

And this is who we are trusting with Metal Gear Solid?! It's like Hollywood is trying to make video game movies fail.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136907 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136907 Sat, 02 Sep 2017 13:46:05 +0000 DestinyCody Miller
TWAB* (reply) [image]

#codywaswrong

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136873 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136873 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 23:21:28 +0000 DestinyAvateur
+1 (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136871 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136871 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 23:14:04 +0000 DestinyCyberKN I stopped working, fired up destiny, just to take that shot (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136856 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136856 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:28:22 +0000 Destinykidtsunami Bwahahahahahahahaha (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136851 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136851 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 19:32:17 +0000 DestinyZackDark Ooooo this cutscene is so serious, it's spoooooky (reply)

Lol... this is making me sound super anal, but it's not like our guardians are doing that in cutscenes :)

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136844 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136844 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 18:35:36 +0000 Destinykidtsunami
Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! (reply) Thank you for the welcome. Can't deny I'm new to the forum but it's still flattering to be thought of as "fresh". :)

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136812 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136812 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:06:59 +0000 DestinyFaerieFire
Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! (reply)

Word of advice. Yes Funkmon is contagious. Yes Cody is always like that. ...and some other third thing. I forgot.

The third thing is THAB. It's not a typo.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136804 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136804 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 03:30:36 +0000 DestinyCody Miller
Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! (reply) Word of advice. Yes Funkmon is contagious. Yes Cody is always like that. ...and some other third thing. I forgot.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136802 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136802 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 03:15:31 +0000 DestinyINSANEdrive
+1 I'd written up almost this exact response (reply)

My point is, you don't have to make a shitty trailer to appeal to a huge audience, as proven time and time again by Bungie before Destiny.

And they fire the one guy who spoke up about the trailers being shitty.

And my argument is "shitty" is subjective as proved by this conversation and the Internet.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136780 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136780 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 01:01:32 +0000 DestinyXenos
+1 I'd written up almost this exact response (reply)

Statistically, movie trailers that spoil the entire plot are the most effective at getting people to go buy tickets to a film. Does that mean every trailer should basically tell you the entire story?

No? There are other ways to do cool trailers? Oh.


Exactly, there is more than one way. And Bungie and Activision are using their trailers to make two different types of trailers to attract as large an audience as possible. AND without spoiling the story.

My point is, you don't have to make a shitty trailer to appeal to a huge audience, as proven time and time again by Bungie before Destiny.

And they fire the one guy who spoke up about the trailers being shitty.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136776 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136776 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:52:18 +0000 DestinyCody Miller
L.O.L - WOW! (reply) It's a whole different trailer! WOW! Maybe what I find missing in the original trailer was heart.

Edit: OR! I'm just a sucker for Celine Dion. Taylor who? :P

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136772 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136772 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:48:31 +0000 DestinyINSANEdrive
+1 I'd written up almost this exact response (reply)

Statistically, movie trailers that spoil the entire plot are the most effective at getting people to go buy tickets to a film. Does that mean every trailer should basically tell you the entire story?

No? There are other ways to do cool trailers? Oh.

Exactly, there is more than one way. And Bungie and Activision are using their trailers to make two different types of trailers to attract as large an audience as possible. AND without spoiling the story.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136770 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136770 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:46:19 +0000 DestinyXenos
Keyword there is 'every' (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136769 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136769 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:42:46 +0000 DestinyZackDark +1 I'd written up almost this exact response (reply)

I'm not making those assumptions. I'm saying that there is a large LARGE percentage of gamers out there that don't BUY an FPS game primarily for it's story or tone. This is not based on my opinion or anecdotal evidence. Go look at the list of the best selling FPS games of all time. None of the games typically associated with having awesome stories are on the top 5. Even Halo, while Bungie.org is a great example of people who love the story, is not generally associated with its story, but with its multiplayer. The real point I'm trying to make is that Activision SHOULD market their game to those people as well as us who happen to love the world and story behind Destiny. They want a great and fun action FPS, guess what? Destiny 2 can fill that want!

Statistically, movie trailers that spoil the entire plot are the most effective at getting people to go buy tickets to a film. Does that mean every trailer should basically tell you the entire story?

No? There are other ways to do cool trailers? Oh.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136768 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136768 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:41:28 +0000 DestinyCody Miller
+1 I'd written up almost this exact response (reply)

Then I would say this trailer did a fine job since Destiny is a great action game. Like I said, gameplay is what most people buy an fps off of, not story.


From that angle, I think you're absolutely right. I just don't think it's safe or right to make assumptions like "people don't care about the story or tone, so we don't need to worry about portraying it accurately". Luke S and Mark N have specifically talked about how much effort Bungie has put into creating a compelling story that players will care about this time around. To have a trailer come along and say "nah, that doesn't really matter" is disappointing to me.

I'm not making those assumptions. I'm saying that there is a large LARGE percentage of gamers out there that don't BUY an FPS game primarily for it's story or tone. This is not based on my opinion or anecdotal evidence. Go look at the list of the best selling FPS games of all time. None of the games typically associated with having awesome stories are on the top 5. Even Halo, while Bungie.org is a great example of people who love the story, is not generally associated with its story, but with its multiplayer. The real point I'm trying to make is that Activision SHOULD market their game to those people as well as us who happen to love the world and story behind Destiny. They want a great and fun action FPS, guess what? Destiny 2 can fill that want!

The other thing I always stress whenever these discussions about trailers come up is that these decisions matter because companies put so much time, thought, and money into marketing that you can learn a lot about their priorities from how they choose to market their game. This is something Joe Staten talked about a fair bit on one of the old Bungie Podcasts, regarding the ODST reveal trailer. So when I look at how Destiny 2 is being marketed (the trailers, specifically) I see some severe disconnects. I suspect (but can't prove) that we're seeing some marketing that was primarily handled by Activision (the reveal trailer and the Live Action trailer), and some that had more direct involvement from Bungie (the more traditional space-opera in-engine trailers).

How is that a problem though? Bungie markets to one set of gamers, while Activision markets to another. How does that at all hurt either group's enjoyment of the final product. I'm just not seeing the downside apart from a small percentage of the fanbase not liking TWO out of like 10 trailers and videos released for the game.

The best part about this, is that you get overlap, just look around the forum. I am one of them. I LOVE the trailers Bungie puts out, it sets a tone and a setting that gets me stoked to spend time in that world (don't even get me started about the Zavala trailer). But you know the thing they tend to not cover really well? How FUN Destiny is to play, ESPECIALLY with friends. And you know what does that? The live action/most likely Activision produced trailers.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136766 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136766 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:32:56 +0000 DestinyXenos
/me glares. (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136765 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136765 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:28:22 +0000 DestinyRagashingo On a second watching what actually bothers me the most... (reply) Is how far away the dog things are when the Warlock is firing his shotgun. That is either inexcusably poor tactical decision making, or it bodes for unpleasantness in crucible...

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136764 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=136764 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:25:15 +0000 DestinyFaerieFire