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Dry rot can set in in just a few years, with the elements taking the remnants away in short order... Then again, whatever it was that killed all of the people throughout the Russian countryside could have melted all the tires off of the cars.


Or the tires may have been all harvested to make Velveeta Cheese. The stuff will surely be traded in the underground blackmarkets like gold in ANY post apocalyptic scenario.


That's what I was thinking.

Well, I guess that pretty much ends any speculation about what happened to all the tires during the Collapse. One mystery down, 8,134,213 to go...

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13920 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13920 Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:52:55 +0000 DestinyDJenser
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

Certainly Race 5 is extra double mysterious. Just by process of elimination I place them as the race that caused Humanity's fall. I caution against heading towards a Covenant style grouping of the enemy races though. Why? Uh... because with no evidence whatsoever I feel that Bungie won't want to go with that approach again. I think, eh... hope, that these various races all have individual motivations.

They have mentioned in the past that the races are not friendly towards each other. If I can find the article I'll link it.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13849 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13849 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:43:18 +0000 DestinyXenos
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) Certainly Race 5 is extra double mysterious. Just by process of elimination I place them as the race that caused Humanity's fall. I caution against heading towards a Covenant style grouping of the enemy races though. Why? Uh... because with no evidence whatsoever I feel that Bungie won't want to go with that approach again. I think, eh... hope, that these various races all have individual motivations.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13848 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13848 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:38:15 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

Dry rot can set in in just a few years, with the elements taking the remnants away in short order... Then again, whatever it was that killed all of the people throughout the Russian countryside could have melted all the tires off of the cars.


Or the tires may have been all harvested to make Velveeta Cheese. The stuff will surely be traded in the underground blackmarkets like gold in ANY post apocalyptic scenario.

That's what I was thinking.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13847 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13847 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:28:49 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

Dry rot can set in in just a few years, with the elements taking the remnants away in short order... Then again, whatever it was that killed all of the people throughout the Russian countryside could have melted all the tires off of the cars.

Or the tires may have been all harvested to make Velveeta Cheese. The stuff will surely be traded in the underground blackmarkets like gold in ANY post apocalyptic scenario.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13846 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13846 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:24:04 +0000 DestinyPyromancy
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) Dry rot can set in in just a few years, with the elements taking the remnants away in short order... Then again, whatever it was that killed all of the people throughout the Russian countryside could have melted all the tires off of the cars.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13845 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13845 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:50:04 +0000 DestinyDJenser
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) I think what I'm most curious about as far as this stuff right now is whether or not the facility we were shown was the Baikonur Cosmodrome (or part of it or connected to it or built on top of it or built from it).
Also, I noticed in the concept art and game screenshots all the tires are gone; I forgot how long that takes but it gives us a minimum for the length of time between the collapse of civilization and the point we (the player characters) enter the story.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13843 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13843 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:38:00 +0000 DestinyGeneral Vagueness
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) What if it isn't the various races themselves that followed the Traveler, but the 5th Race? What if the Traveler wrought a similar "Golden Age" upon the Cabal & the Fallen in the distant past & the mysterious Flying Pyramid Builders appeared & secretly co-opted each of them in turn, promising the Cabal new worlds to conquer & the Fallen a chance to regain their former glory, turning them each into lackeys of a sort? Perhaps the Vex came from a race that has yet to be encountered, but is destined to be wiped out in the future & who sent them back to our time, a pivotal time in history, to effect a change drastic enough to preserve their creators own timeline?

And the Hive? well, the short answer would be "Because Space Zombies"...

Honestly, these pieces are too scattered to provide much info in and of themselves... We still need a few crucial missing bits to link them all together.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13840 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13840 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:29:16 +0000 DestinyDJenser
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

That fits in line with my own pet theory that the word "Exo" is derived from the term "Exomorphic"; lieterally: "Outside of its previous form".

And even if you took it from Exoskeleton, it still implies there is another form than what you can see from the outside.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13839 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13839 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:20:59 +0000 DestinyXenos
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) That fits in line with my own pet theory that the word "Exo" is derived from the term "Exomorphic"; literally: "Outside of its previous form".

As for the "Awoken", my theory there is that they were humans that were modified in vitro, having had certain genomic sequences activated or, if you will, "awoken"...

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13837 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13837 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:19:24 +0000 DestinyDJenser
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

Prop driven aircraft are also still used in the modern era for ground support, ECM, recon and transport, so the crashed planes could be more contemporary turboprop aircraft.

And 'air superiority' in many 3rd-world country, like mine.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13812 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13812 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:51:23 +0000 DestinyZackDark
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) Having seen quite a few autobodies without the trim and interior, I can say the ones in the photo are too angular even for current production vehicles. If you look at vehicles built in the last two to three years, they are very rounded and smooth. The photos here have small rear windows with very boxy or hard angles that seem much more in line with the late 90s automotive style.

Now, there is nothing stoping future automotive styles to go retro and return to the boxy setup, but it seems unlikely. I'm also going to discount the russian based automotive makers since they currently do build in that style, but I don't see that trend continuing if the Russian economy picks up and they get money for a new design. I expect they will ape European trends just like the Indians and Chinese did when they revamped their markets.

The planes make sense to have a mishmash of types. The last days must have been desperate, and I can see even the US restoring the old planes at the western bone yards in a last ditch effort just to get something in the air to contest air superiorty. Prop driven aircraft are also still used in the modern era for ground support, ECM, recon and transport, so the crashed planes could be more contemporary turboprop aircraft.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13811 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13811 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:56:21 +0000 DestinyDurandal
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

What if The Traveler was meant to help Planets or entire Solar Systems but with its help it brought with it harm? Maybe it would help a Planet in distress and raise them to great heights but it would be followed by the Civilization(s) it had rescued before and had promised great things (like the Fallen, who feel entitled to Earth). They would follow the Traveler seeking the things it had promised before it left them and maybe when the Traveler touched a new Solar System the previous Civilization(s) all felt entitled to it and would fight to get it.

What would it have promised them? Why would it not fufill its promises?

I suspect there may be some truth to the various races fighting over the Sol system because The Traveler is here. Maybe because they hate it, or maybe because they want to obtain its power to defeat their enemies.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13799 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13799 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:59:56 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) What if The Traveler was meant to help Planets or entire Solar Systems but with its help it brought with it harm? Maybe it would help a Planet in distress and raise them to great heights but it would be followed by the Civilization(s) it had rescued before and had promised great things (like the Fallen, who feel entitled to Earth). They would follow the Traveler seeking the things it had promised before it left them and maybe when the Traveler touched a new Solar System the previous Civilization(s) all felt entitled to it and would fight to get it.

Derp. I made this before I finished reading the whole thread, and this is almost exactly what he said. XD

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13798 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13798 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:36:06 +0000 DestinyKalvin
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

Good points on both.

Other views of the cars, such as the bus below, feel closer to modern day or somewhat futuristic. Also the cars you see are just what's left of the frame. I'm no car expert, but is it really that easy to tell modern day cars from cars made 20+ years ago just looking at the barest possible bit of framework?

Not really easy, but somewhat easy. Trending frameworks have changed quite a bit on the last 20 years, but I can easily forgive Bungie for skipping that detail.

On the planes, I too found that one interesting. One one end of the explanation spectrum it could just be that the artist that did that piece liked older planes. On the other end there's always time traveling robots to bring in outdated technology. Another possible suggestion could be that the people of Earth were trying to fight or flee with any thing available. We already have a huge mass of Russians attempting to board a clearly insufficient number of colony ships. Who to say that old planes weren't pulled out and used in desperation?

Very good call. Had not thought of that. Maybe that also applies to the cars?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13763 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13763 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:33:46 +0000 DestinyZackDark
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) Good points on both.

Other views of the cars, such as the bus below, feel closer to modern day or somewhat futuristic. Also the cars you see are just what's left of the frame. I'm no car expert, but is it really that easy to tell modern day cars from cars made 20+ years ago just looking at the barest possible bit of framework?

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On the planes, I too found that one interesting. One one end of the explanation spectrum it could just be that the artist that did that piece liked older planes. On the other end there's always time traveling robots to bring in outdated technology. Another possible suggestion could be that the people of Earth were trying to fight or flee with any thing available. We already have a huge mass of Russians attempting to board a clearly insufficient number of colony ships. Who to say that old planes weren't pulled out and used in desperation?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13753 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13753 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 04:00:56 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) My only thing to add would be this:

We see fields of rusty, wrecked equipment - cars and planes in particular - in several sources. Above all, I'm thinking of this bit of concept art:

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The planes here look very old. The one up close looks almost like Korean War technology (think F-86 Sabre), and the one in the background (mostly covered up by the foreground) looks like World War II technology (sort of like a P-38 Lightning)! When on earth were these even made?

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Those cars don't look futuristic. Rather, they look quite similar to cars from today, or even from a few decades earlier! Again, when were these made?

Any ideas?

Vale,
Perseus

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13751 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13751 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:41:00 +0000 DestinyPerseusSpartacus
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) Martian AI's sound like T-R-O-U-B-L-E to me. ;)

In some ways I want the alien races to actually be aliens. But it would be a cool twist if we never left our solar system and nobody but The Traveler entered it. That would pretty much make The Traveler the one who tried to stamp us out I guess.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13746 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13746 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 01:37:55 +0000 DestinyRagashingo
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply) It totally wasn't me. It was some Traxus guy :)

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13745 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13745 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 01:37:36 +0000 DestinyDurandal
Speculation Saturday #1: The Golden Age (reply)

That would explain how humanity could build so extensively in a short time, large amounts of automation, and Bungie has a thing about Mars, rebellions and AIs.

Psh, what would you know about Mars, rebellions, and AIs, DURANDAL?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13742 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=13742 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:44:00 +0000 DestinyXenos