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Notably, the Vex are also unable to simulate Oryx, or more specifically, the part (symbiotic organism) of Oryx that gives him his powers. When Quria (the Vex mind) tries to simulate him, it instead simulates Aurash, Oryx's original form.


Funny, the Cabal's OXA Machine was able to predict the manner of Oryx's rise. So it's better than the Vex?

No, that was retrospective.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137918 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137918 Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:06:21 +0000 DestinyGeneral Battuta
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* (reply)


Notably, the Vex are also unable to simulate Oryx, or more specifically, the part (symbiotic organism) of Oryx that gives him his powers. When Quria (the Vex mind) tries to simulate him, it instead simulates Aurash, Oryx's original form.

They also couldn't deal with the Taken, and had to resort to help from the other thing that they couldn't simulate...
Maybe that was an experiment.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137843 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137843 Wed, 13 Sep 2017 18:22:01 +0000 DestinyKorny
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* (reply)

Cabal's OXA Machine


Wow, weird. On my way home from work I was just thinking, "I sure wish Bungie had gotten General Battuta to write a Book of Sorrow for the Cabal." Turns out, they did, I just somehow missed it!

I believe it's only in a journal for special edition buyers. Which, is actually worse than having grimoire on a website. Fortunately, it's been republished on a lot of sites.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137744 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137744 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:21:48 +0000 DestinyCody Miller
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* (reply)

Cabal's OXA Machine

Wow, weird. On my way home from work I was just thinking, "I sure wish Bungie had gotten General Battuta to write a Book of Sorrow for the Cabal." Turns out, they did, I just somehow missed it!

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137741 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137741 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:12:59 +0000 Destinysquidnh3
Super Cool. *SP* (reply)

In the D1 Grimoire, we had a lot of info about a vex that was running a simulation of the entire universe. Actually 37 (iirc) simulations, congruently. So a theory developed which was that maybe *we* were in a simulation that the vex were running.

Well, Failsafe has a line which completely debunks that. She says, during one mission or another (I'm paraphrasing here): "The vex are talking about you, guardian. Of course, they don't call you 'guardian,' they have another name for you." Ghost: "What do they call us?" Failsafe: "Those who wield that which cannot be simulated."

Which is? My thinking is something quantum, as if you try to measure it, it changes. How would you simulate something if seemingly your consciousness is changing the variable every time you try to measure it?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137739 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137739 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:08:52 +0000 DestinyINSANEdrive
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* (reply)

Notably, the Vex are also unable to simulate Oryx, or more specifically, the part (symbiotic organism) of Oryx that gives him his powers. When Quria (the Vex mind) tries to simulate him, it instead simulates Aurash, Oryx's original form.

Funny, the Cabal's OXA Machine was able to predict the manner of Oryx's rise. So it's better than the Vex?

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137725 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137725 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 21:30:03 +0000 DestinyCody Miller
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* (reply)

In the D1 Grimoire, we had a lot of info about a vex that was running a simulation of the entire universe. Actually 37 (iirc) simulations, congruently. So a theory developed which was that maybe *we* were in a simulation that the vex were running.

Well, Failsafe has a line which completely debunks that. She says, during one mission or another (I'm paraphrasing here): "The vex are talking about you, guardian. Of course, they don't call you 'guardian,' they have another name for you." Ghost: "What do they call us?" Failsafe: "Those who wield that which cannot be simulated."

Are you referring to the Vex 1-4 Grimoire, with the story of the scientists in the Golden Age studying Vex? It turned out they were being simulated, but brought in a Warmind (which could act in ways that couldn't be simulated) to break them free. They then re-entered the Vex systems, all 227 copies of them. Those events predated the Collapse, and Guardians, so the lore is still consistent.

Notably, the Vex are also unable to simulate Oryx, or more specifically, the part (symbiotic organism) of Oryx that gives him his powers. When Quria (the Vex mind) tries to simulate him, it instead simulates Aurash, Oryx's original form.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137717 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137717 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:57:34 +0000 Destinysquidnh3
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* (reply)

In the D1 Grimoire, we had a lot of info about a vex that was running a simulation of the entire universe. Actually 37 (iirc) simulations, congruently. So a theory developed which was that maybe *we* were in a simulation that the vex were running.

Well, Failsafe has a line which completely debunks that. She says, during one mission or another (I'm paraphrasing here): "The vex are talking about you, guardian. Of course, they don't call you 'guardian,' they have another name for you." Ghost: "What do they call us?" Failsafe: "Those who wield that which cannot be simulated."

In hindsight especially, that tracks. The powers of the light and of the dark have both been referred to as paracausal, or "beyond causality."

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137714 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137714 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:38:05 +0000 DestinyEffortlessFury
One theory about the Vex debunked *SP* In the D1 Grimoire, we had a lot of info about a vex that was running a simulation of the entire universe. Actually 37 (iirc) simulations, congruently. So a theory developed which was that maybe *we* were in a simulation that the vex were running.

Well, Failsafe has a line which completely debunks that. She says, during one mission or another (I'm paraphrasing here): "The vex are talking about you, guardian. Of course, they don't call you 'guardian,' they have another name for you." Ghost: "What do they call us?" Failsafe: "Those who wield that which cannot be simulated."

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137708 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=137708 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:17:31 +0000 DestinyKahzgul