DBO Forums - Forgot to ask: which one should I play first? https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/ Bungie.Org talks Destiny en Forgot to ask: which one should I play first? (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=148082 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=148082 Sat, 17 Feb 2018 02:55:36 +0000 Off-TopicOholiab Styx: Master of Shadows, now on sale! XB/PS4 (reply) Just picked this up!

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=148081 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=148081 Sat, 17 Feb 2018 01:45:07 +0000 Off-TopicOholiab
Styx: Master of Shadows, now on sale! XB/PS4 (reply)

You can find it pretty cheap during sales if you're not too wealthy (~$10), and apparently it was received well enough that it got a sequel (and often comes bundled with it). Steam user reviews are also very positive, so it seems like the game continues to be consistently fun beyond what I played.

It's available as a bundle with the sequel for $15 if you have Gold.

For those on Playstation who didn't pick it up when it was free, you too can scoop it up with the sequel included for $15!

Also, Titanfall 2 Ultimate Edition for $10...

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=148078 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=148078 Fri, 16 Feb 2018 22:41:18 +0000 Off-TopicKorny
on Tomb Raider (reply)

Tomb Raider 2013 is just wonderful. I haven't played the sequel yet - I have it, but I've been saving it for after I finish some other things.

But that first game. The story, particularly the development of Lara's character, is extremely well done. You go on a journey with her as she believably transitions from being as overwhelmed and frightened as anyone would be, to finding the grit to pull through where almost anyone else would have fallen.

That first game is really special. It gave me a moment of pause when she hit that turning point, where rather than being hunted, she was feared; where the enemy freaked out as she picked up a grenade launcher, and she shouted out to taunt them. That clueless college girl who was shivering in the cold, desperate to start a fire was long gone.

Issa great game. Shame the sequel wasn't anywhere near as impactful, and her characterization (and pretty much the entire cast) was thrown out the window. Still good gameplay-wise, but that first game stands apart.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147264 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147264 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:28:04 +0000 Off-TopicKorny
on Tomb Raider (reply) Tomb Raider 2013 is just wonderful. I haven't played the sequel yet - I have it, but I've been saving it for after I finish some other things.

But that first game. The story, particularly the development of Lara's character, is extremely well done. You go on a journey with her as she believably transitions from being as overwhelmed and frightened as anyone would be, to finding the grit to pull through where almost anyone else would have fallen. It's done well through the acting in cutscenes, but it's also done through the physicality of moving around and combat. Through some magic combination of animation/mo-cap and sound, every leap, every roll, every time she catches a ledge, you can feel Lara giving it that last bit of desperate effort. Same thing in combat. Lara's never the biggest one in the fight, so every attack has to be done with total savage conviction - but she's never enjoying it. Every time she throws dirt in someone's face or slams an ice pick home, there's a tangible brutality to it that's a little unsettling, even from the detachment of my couch.

It actually reminds me a little bit of God of War in the way it communicates emotion through motion and sound. Maybe an odd comparison to make, I guess.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147260 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147260 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:12:20 +0000 Off-Topicstabbim
Styx: Master of Shadows (reply) If you see the world through your cynical eyes, you might be tricked into thinking that Stealth games have all lost their way. It's a good thing that Styx is here to bring back classic MGS-esque stealth gameplay.

I got it back when it was free for PS+, and due to space concerns at the time (what a fuss), I didn't put more than a couple of hours into it, but I really liked what I played. It's all about stealth, and making your way through the room with no (surviving) witnesses.
It can seriously get pretty tough, as the focus is strictly on being stealthy.

You can find it pretty cheap during sales if you're not too wealthy (~$10), and apparently it was received well enough that it got a sequel (and often comes bundled with it). Steam user reviews are also very positive, so it seems like the game continues to be consistently fun beyond what I played.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147259 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147259 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:51:41 +0000 Off-TopicKorny
on Tomb Raider (reply)

Same goes for Tomb Raider. The Tomb Raider reboots are freaking GREAT btw.


Ok, if I had to get one of the reboots, which one??


I would start with the first one because it'll be way cheaper. They're equally excellent games, super fun, and well, exciting in a cinematic way that many games attempt but very very few succeed at.

I whole heartily agree with this. It is so well done cinematically that a buddy and I just played the entire series together trading off the controller because it was almost just as interesting to watch the other play. It was also fun to laugh at them when they messed up :-P

I would highly recommend Tomb Raider. But start from the remastered first one. You might be able to find both in some combo deal.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147256 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147256 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:44:52 +0000 Off-TopicMacAddictXIV
on Dishonored... (reply)

Dishonored is a vastly superior game when played as a stealth game, though much of its design pushes you towards murdering everyone.


I hear good things about this. Can I play 2 without playing the first one?


You can, but honestly if you're up for stealth, even though Dishonored has that gameplay built in, as Kahzgul has mentioned, the game really doesn't want you to. It is a bleak and bloodthirsty game. If you want to play purely stealth, expect the game to fight you in ever so subtle and not so subtle ways. I, myself, could never get into it because of this.

The mark seems to be very much like the ring of power.


There's some truth to this. It's easy to commit acts of violence. I realized this when I accidentally decapitated someone in one of the early missions. But being stealthy even most of the time pays off in terms of the gameplay and the narrative.

Ultimately, Dishonored is a great game full stop however you play it.

This. There are some very crowded species in the game. It is very easy to kill quickly in a variety of ways. There is even a perk that will have the bodies you kill, but not knock out, evaporate away. It's all aimed towards killing, and quickly.

To be non lethal, you have far fewer options. You have the never-enough knock out arrows, if you can get some height you can jump and quickly knock out people, or you can pick up an object and throw it and hope it knocks out and doesn't kill. Yet most of the time I found that you have to go behind and hold the button for a few seconds. It is unlike every other move in the game, which is generally speedy, as this non-lethal move is a slog. This kills the flow. When I'm being stealthy, I get in and get out as I need to. The game fights that in its design.

Don't get me wrong, it's obviously a stellar game. It's all about your style of play. I enjoy what the most recent Splinter Cell calls "Panther", yet in the Non-Lethal sense. A.K.A - THE BATMAN! I enjoy clearing the board without being detected. Yet if you prefer "Ghost" then Dishonored does allow that in its Gameplay.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147226 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147226 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:37:53 +0000 Off-TopicINSANEdrive
on Fortnite... (reply)

Thief was a great stealth game that I really loved.


hmmm.. I downloaded this when it was free on XBL. I'll give it another go.


Dishonored is a vastly superior game when played as a stealth game, though much of its design pushes you towards murdering everyone.


I hear good things about this. Can I play 2 without playing the first one?

I've not played the 2nd one yet, personally, but I hear that you can. That being said, why would you? Just buy the first one for like $5 used and go to town.


Fortnite's battle royale pvp can be played to great success as a stealth game ;)


crazymoose117 just got into this game over the last week. I gave it a shot today. My first drop, I glided on top of a roof with a shotgun and missed the spot by a hair. At the same time, an enemy landed on the shotgun, acquired it, and killed me right as I touched down. Game over. "That's it", I asked? Crazymoose117 was too busy laughing to answer me.

Hahahahhahaha. And yet you can leave the game and get into a new one looooong before the original game ends. This keeps the better players sequestered in the endgame of their first game, and lets the worse (or newer) players hop game to game to game very quickly as they learn the ropes.


Large portions of The Last of Us are stealth-based.


Xbone?

Ahh, no. Sorry!


Same goes for Tomb Raider. The Tomb Raider reboots are freaking GREAT btw.


Ok, if I had to get one of the reboots, which one??

I would start with the first one because it'll be way cheaper. They're equally excellent games, super fun, and well, exciting in a cinematic way that many games attempt but very very few succeed at.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147217 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147217 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:03:14 +0000 Off-TopicKahzgul
Stealth-action game recommendations (reply) I had tucked the kids in one night and gone to bed. I heard a single knock on my front door. It was that kind of knock someone would make if they were checking to see if anyone was in the living room. Not a pound pound or a continuous knock, just a single tap. I rolled out of bed, grabbed my pistol, and posted up in the hall where I could see the door and prevent anyone from going towards the kids' rooms.

A few minutes went by and there was no other sound. I eased across the room while covering the door and peaked out of the blinds. There was a police car outside. I open the door and could see one cop in front of my house and another walking to a house down the street. I asked the one out front of he knocked on my door and he said "yeah, wrong house". I was like, man, you really need to announce yourself if you are coming up to doors late at night.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147214 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147214 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:53:17 +0000 Off-Topicbluerunner
You jest, but... (reply)


I have not heard of this line of sight variation.

It was as mixture of men and women, at night time, with a small area to protect that was easy to infiltrate, so ocular callouts was the best option. Sometimes all you saw was a flash of color so we resorted to "RED SHIRT!"

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147213 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147213 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:45:15 +0000 Off-TopicManKitten
You jest, but... (reply) Red Robber and I would 1v1 paintball at night. We went out into a big field of tall grass and bushes late at night and stalked each other. Fire and miss and you gave up your location. We would carefully crawl so that the grass didn't move. I remember watching a light by a nearby house for an hour until I saw Red's silhouette pass in front of it. My shot went inches from his head, then it was a mad scramble to fall back while he peppered my location.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147210 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147210 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:40:36 +0000 Off-Topicbluerunner
Stealth-action game recommendations (reply)

When has that ever worked well for anyone? :p


Me, last night. I thought I heard something brushing against my window, but it turned out to just be the show I had been watching. It's probably for the best that I didn't decide to shoot the window.

Remind me never to check your window to see if anyone is home...

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147206 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147206 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:21:01 +0000 Off-TopicMacAddictXIV
Stealth-action game recommendations (reply)

When has that ever worked well for anyone? :p

Me, last night. I thought I heard something brushing against my window, but it turned out to just be the show I had been watching. It's probably for the best that I didn't decide to shoot the window.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147205 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147205 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:19:09 +0000 Off-Topicstabbim
You jest, but... (reply) Every kick the can is so different!

When it was just us boys playing, we used a tackling system for the guard with football rules of being down. If you got properly tackled, you were out and sat in jail. The winner was either the first guy to kick the can or the guard, then the game ended and we played rock paper scissors or shot for it or whatever for the next warden.

If we had girls or younger kids, we did a standard tag system, and if you got tagged you went to jail. If it was a kid or girl who was It, then kicking the can just released a player from jail. The guard of the can lost if he let at least the number of people playing the game out of jail, or he won if he tagged out enough people.

I have not heard of this line of sight variation.

That said, it sounds like our standard hide and seek. You call the kid's name and where he is hiding, and he is out.

Then there was hide and seek tag, where you have to tag the guy.

Then there was hide and seek home base where you call them out, have to tag them, but if they can reach the tree in the center of the playing field, they are safe.

So it seems like a natural variation.

One time me and my friend invented cricket independently.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147203 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147203 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:13:12 +0000 Off-TopicFunkmon
You jest, but... (reply) I played a game of adult kick the can a few years ago and we had a blast. Our version was a little bit different though.

It wasn't in the woods, it was in town, so we were running all about the neighborhood. My driveway was base, which held the can out in the open. One person was the jailkeeper, and guarded the can.

Everyone else would sneak around and try to run up and kick the can over. If the jailkeeper saw you and yelled your name, you were in jail at the base. The objective was for the jailkeeper to capture everyone through visual sight and yelling their name. But if there are people in jail, and someone can successfully kick the can, everyone in jail gets to go free while the jailkeeper retrieves the can and puts it back in the proper spot. So you have to run away and hide pretty quickly before jailkeeper starts yelling names. The last person alive wins and becomes the jailkeeper in the next round.

Also the prisoners can distract the jailkeeper.

So yes...Kick the Can IS the ultimate sneaking game.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147196 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147196 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:32:38 +0000 Off-TopicManKitten
Kick the can. (reply) It's pretty good. You and a few of your friends find a clearing and a paint can with some rocks.

Put the rocks in the can and the can in the clearing. Now, you play my turn based strategy game recommendation: rock paper scissors. Loser gets to guard the can.

Now the rest of you go hide in the woods for a while, and you sneak around to try to run and kick the can! The guard though gets to keep you from doing it by whatever means necessary, though you can set handicaps like no tackling.

If you kick the can, you win!

It's got that asymmetrical multiplayer like spies vs mercs that's all the rage, plus it's free-to-play. It's pretty trendy honestly, all the kids are playing it.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147195 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147195 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:06:52 +0000 Off-TopicFunkmon
on Dishonored... (reply)

Dishonored is a vastly superior game when played as a stealth game, though much of its design pushes you towards murdering everyone.


I hear good things about this. Can I play 2 without playing the first one?


You can, but honestly if you're up for stealth, even though Dishonored has that gameplay built in, as Kahzgul has mentioned, the game really doesn't want you to. It is a bleak and bloodthirsty game. If you want to play purely stealth, expect the game to fight you in ever so subtle and not so subtle ways. I, myself, could never get into it because of this.

The mark seems to be very much like the ring of power.

There's some truth to this. It's easy to commit acts of violence. I realized this when I accidentally decapitated someone in one of the early missions. But being stealthy even most of the time pays off in terms of the gameplay and the narrative.

Ultimately, Dishonored is a great game full stop however you play it.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147181 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147181 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:38:32 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
on Dishonored... (Spoilers I guess?) (reply) Oh, yeah, definitely.

That one is also the standout because the target deserved it the least, really. Granted, depending on which of the three it gives you, but still.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147180 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147180 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 07:36:01 +0000 Off-TopicRaichuKFM
on Dishonored... (reply)

Plus, the story is pushing more towards stealth.

Oh, thinking back, I can see a few things that might be pushing away from stealth/pacifism, but I think they're easy to ignore? They were for me, at least.

The game sort of does both. The Chaos system rewards you for not murdering your targets, but almost all of the things you do to the targets is way worse than just murdering them. Straight up kidnapping the one woman and giving her to some creepy ass dude you meet on the street really stands out. Like, sure, I didn't kill her, I just subjected her to god knows what in that fucko's dungeon instead.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147179 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=147179 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 05:52:53 +0000 Off-TopiccheapLEY