Heh. Now I feel both clueless and wildly innovative!

Our "method" was to:

1. Run around in terror as we desperately tried to kill Psions while avoiding the Knights
2. Once the Psions were clear, kill a single Knight
3. Kill the crystal and DPS the boss... doing maybe 1/10th damage
4. Before the buff timer runs out, have each of us jump off the edge in turn so that being revived clears the buff.
5. GOTO: 1

This whole "hey, dummies, the buff stacks" method seems a lot easier... but again, less innovative. :)

Ok, so while our final fight strategy was... innovative... our method of crossing the slow thrall zone during the final step of the Wish Ender quest was a lot of fun and very effective.

I just grabbed the orb and went to town punching every thrall in sight. And they exploded. And those explosions healed me and my allies as we trotted our way forward. And if a thrall ever did manage to melee me it died thanks to a high damage multiplier on my ACD/0 Feedback Fence. I think what was happening was as a Code of the Commander Titan, my melee was never used up because I was hitting enemies with the orb which was still activating my charged melee perks. Explosions and healing.

I suppose I can never actually do it that way again, but it turned a nightmare of a crossing into one of my most Titan moments ever! :)

Being able to just follow Cruel's lead helps a lot, too. (:

We were saying this last night. I'm all about the lore, the raids, the challenging quests, and competitive but grinding at the edge is for people that are not me. But count me ready to get sweaty.

I actually found watching him get through the boss fights particularly helpful.

...I'm basically running behind people, trying to figure out the maps and not get killed.

Following a teammate AND trying not to get killed?! You're already better that most of the people I get thrown into Iron Banner with :p

-Disciple

I'll toss my hat into this ring, if anyone will have it. I generally enjoy Competitive (surprisingly, to me), but I mostly have ZERO idea about strats. The (very few) games I've played have been with folks who are light-years above me, skill and experience wise, and I'm basically running behind people, trying to figure out the maps and not get killed. I'd love to actually contribute - but it has to be on teams that are okay with my cluelessness. :)

I'm basically in the same boat, but I was surprised at how quickly it felt like I was improving. I've only played three decent nights of Competitive, but when I'm with a good team that communications well, it's easier to sort of find a groove and feel like I'm actually performing well and contributing instead of just being a boat anchor everyone else has to drag around.

Being able to just follow Cruel's lead helps a lot, too. (:

I haven’t seen you online since we played with that rando last week. I’m itching to get some more Comp time in.

I'm online most nights, but I've gotten into the bad habit of appearing "offline" while watching netflix, and forgetting to switch it back when I log in to Destiny. I'd love to run more competitive with you as well. Is there a night that's good for you and/or anyone else?

I want to play more competitive because I have fun with it as a team, but I don't know if you want to play with me :D

I'd love to!

I'll toss my hat into this ring, if anyone will have it. I generally enjoy Competitive (surprisingly, to me), but I mostly have ZERO idea about strats. The (very few) games I've played have been with folks who are light-years above me, skill and experience wise, and I'm basically running behind people, trying to figure out the maps and not get killed. I'd love to actually contribute - but it has to be on teams that are okay with my cluelessness. :)

Yeah, that basically defines me as well. Except I'm a better shot.

I haven’t seen you online since we played with that rando last week. I’m itching to get some more Comp time in.

I'm online most nights, but I've gotten into the bad habit of appearing "offline" while watching netflix, and forgetting to switch it back when I log in to Destiny. I'd love to run more competitive with you as well. Is there a night that's good for you and/or anyone else?

I want to play more competitive because I have fun with it as a team, but I don't know if you want to play with me :D

I'd love to!

I'll toss my hat into this ring, if anyone will have it. I generally enjoy Competitive (surprisingly, to me), but I mostly have ZERO idea about strats. The (very few) games I've played have been with folks who are light-years above me, skill and experience wise, and I'm basically running behind people, trying to figure out the maps and not get killed. I'd love to actually contribute - but it has to be on teams that are okay with my cluelessness. :)

This whole "hey, dummies, the buff stacks" method seems a lot easier... but again, less innovative. :)

I didn't call you guys dummies!

Yeah... That was just me. :)

This whole "hey, dummies, the buff stacks" method seems a lot easier... but again, less innovative. :)

I didn't call you guys dummies! I definitely did not figure it out by myself. Also I need to reread what I type. SO MANY DAMN TYPOS...

IIRC you want to bring the nights down close to the same time to stack the buffs. So get them low then kill them all at once. With all those stacks, people haev been able to 1 phase her with Whisper/Celestial Nighthawk.

That would explain why my group was able to go straight through without worrying about it. All 3 Knights died at roughly the same time.

Our "method" was to:

1. Run around in terror as we desperately tried to kill Psions while avoiding the Knights
2. Once the Psions were clear, kill a single Knight
3. Kill the crystal and DPS the boss... doing maybe 1/10th damage
4. Before the buff timer runs out, have each of us jump off the edge in turn so that being revived clears the buff.
5. GOTO: 1

This whole "hey, dummies, the buff stacks" method seems a lot easier... but again, less innovative. :)

I need to make a bit of a correction to my earlier statements about Wish Ender. I still don't think its amazing, but after spending some time with it in the Dreaming City, it is more powerful than I initially thought. A single shot would rip right through a red-bar Wizard's shield, and take out a good chunk of its health. I also found that I was often able to find positions or angles that would let me line up multiple enemies in a row, and I'd take them all out with a single shot thanks to the over-penetration. Its a very satisfying moment when that happens :)

I still don't think it quite earns the exotic slot. I can't imagine using it over Sleeper, Whisper, Ace of Spades, Tractor Cannon, or a dozen other exotics when I'm in challenging missions. But for running around in patrol or low-level strikes, it can be lots of fun.

I feel like that is how about half of the exotics work. They are totally fun and exotic, but they aren't worth the exotic slot in power.

Very true. And generally speaking, I think that's a good approach. I have certain weapons that I'll go to when I need raw DPS, but lots of others that fit niche roles or are fun in unique ways. I would love to see the "unique" factor cranked up a bit more. I was running Nightfalls with a guy who had just gotten the Black Talon exotic sword... he certainly wasn't doing as much raw damage with it as he could have been doing with his Sleeper, but he was having a blast with it nonetheless. It was awesome to watch, even just from a visual perspective, because it's wave attacks are such a unique visual effect. And it let him play differently than he usually does. Stuff like that is always great.

Yeah, that's how I feel when I play with Trinity Ghoul. It's hell of a lot of fun when killing groups of red bars and when I do I feel like Zeus. However, I don't think I would ever take it into a raid or anything with lots of orange/yellow bars.

I need to make a bit of a correction to my earlier statements about Wish Ender. I still don't think its amazing, but after spending some time with it in the Dreaming City, it is more powerful than I initially thought. A single shot would rip right through a red-bar Wizard's shield, and take out a good chunk of its health. I also found that I was often able to find positions or angles that would let me line up multiple enemies in a row, and I'd take them all out with a single shot thanks to the over-penetration. Its a very satisfying moment when that happens :)

I still don't think it quite earns the exotic slot. I can't imagine using it over Sleeper, Whisper, Ace of Spades, Tractor Cannon, or a dozen other exotics when I'm in challenging missions. But for running around in patrol or low-level strikes, it can be lots of fun.

I feel like that is how about half of the exotics work. They are totally fun and exotic, but they aren't worth the exotic slot in power.

Very true. And generally speaking, I think that's a good approach. I have certain weapons that I'll go to when I need raw DPS, but lots of others that fit niche roles or are fun in unique ways. I would love to see the "unique" factor cranked up a bit more. I was running Nightfalls with a guy who had just gotten the Black Talon exotic sword... he certainly wasn't doing as much raw damage with it as he could have been doing with his Sleeper, but he was having a blast with it nonetheless. It was awesome to watch, even just from a visual perspective, because it's wave attacks are such a unique visual effect. And it let him play differently than he usually does. Stuff like that is always great.

I need to make a bit of a correction to my earlier statements about Wish Ender. I still don't think its amazing, but after spending some time with it in the Dreaming City, it is more powerful than I initially thought. A single shot would rip right through a red-bar Wizard's shield, and take out a good chunk of its health. I also found that I was often able to find positions or angles that would let me line up multiple enemies in a row, and I'd take them all out with a single shot thanks to the over-penetration. Its a very satisfying moment when that happens :)

I still don't think it quite earns the exotic slot. I can't imagine using it over Sleeper, Whisper, Ace of Spades, Tractor Cannon, or a dozen other exotics when I'm in challenging missions. But for running around in patrol or low-level strikes, it can be lots of fun.

I feel like that is how about half of the exotics work. They are totally fun and exotic, but they aren't worth the exotic slot in power.

I haven’t seen you online since we played with that rando last week. I’m itching to get some more Comp time in.

I'm online most nights, but I've gotten into the bad habit of appearing "offline" while watching netflix, and forgetting to switch it back when I log in to Destiny. I'd love to run more competitive with you as well. Is there a night that's good for you and/or anyone else?

I want to play more competitive because I have fun with it as a team, but I don't know if you want to play with me :D

I'd love to!