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<title>Not everyone has paddles, Cody (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But seriously, the game would either be balanced for people that can do The Claw(tm) or be too easy for them.</p>
</blockquote><p>All the action buttons would be on the triggers and bumpers. No claw needed. If you don't have dual sticks? Use the keyboard to move and the mouse to aim… just like in the Bungie published Abuse. It worked great there.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Not everyone has paddles, Cody (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But seriously, the game would either be balanced for people that can do The Claw(tm) or be too easy for them.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That said, high refresh/framerates cause too much strain on my eyes, so console gaming is far more ideal regardless of input</p>
</blockquote><p>This is the exact opposite of most people! I could not use computer monitors on 60hz back in the CRT days, I could feel the flickering and it was very uncomfortable. Televisions were and are fine for some reason (anyone know the difference between a computer monitor at 60hz vs an NTSC monitor/TV at 60hz?) Anything less than 85hz was unbearable. LCDs clear that up thankfully.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Wow, I feel like an idiot. Heh, that makes a <strong><em>lot</em></strong> more sense! Although it would be pretty interesting to see how Cuphead plays on a Key/Mouse.</p>
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Probably like ass. That's why use a USB controller.</p>
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It makes no sense to me why people get a game on the computer just to use a controller... I understand if it was a computer only game and it allowed controller input, but if it's on both systems why?</p>
</blockquote><p>1. It’s not on PS4.<br />
2. Plug your computer into a TV.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Cody doesn’t have an Xbox, as far as I know.  Probably doesn’t matter for Cuphead, as I think it runs fine on Xbox, but there’s also performance considerations for playing on a computer.  A controller works just as well there as it does on console.</p>
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Yeah, I can see the performance side of things, but I feel like the amount of people who have really nice computers but still use controllers are so far in between. Like most people who spend a lot of money on a computer are usually the ones who don't want anything to do with console people :D</p>
</blockquote><p>I have an Aurora R6 1070, but I can't stand KB/M. Makes my wrists hurt, and finger placement is so uncomfortable. Plus, movement is far less precise on it compared to an analog stick due to pressure-based input (and games like cuphead demand precision!), and the more fluid movement of an analog stick versus a mouse's jerky movements.</p>
<p>When I play PC games, I use Steamlink in the Living room tv (glawrious 4k!) using an Xbone controller (DS4 is occasionally wonky thanks to limited Big Picture support).<br />
My brother has a 1080Ti rig, and the only things I've seen him play on it with KB/M is Left 4 Dead 2 and Team Fortress 2. He says he prefers controllers, but he isn't bothered by KB/M like I am.</p>
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That said, high refresh/framerates cause too much strain on my eyes, so console gaming is far more ideal regardless of input, so even Xbox Play Anywhere titles are pretty much exclusively played on console, but that's just me being old.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Wow, I feel like an idiot. Heh, that makes a <strong><em>lot</em></strong> more sense! Although it would be pretty interesting to see how Cuphead plays on a Key/Mouse.</p>
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Probably like ass. That's why use a USB controller.</p>
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It makes no sense to me why people get a game on the computer just to use a controller... I understand if it was a computer only game and it allowed controller input, but if it's on both systems why?</p>
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Cody doesn’t have an Xbox, as far as I know.  Probably doesn’t matter for Cuphead, as I think it runs fine on Xbox, but there’s also performance considerations for playing on a computer.  A controller works just as well there as it does on console.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, I can see the performance side of things, but I feel like the amount of people who have really nice computers but still use controllers are so far in between. Like most people who spend a lot of money on a computer are usually the ones who don't want anything to do with console people :D</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Wow, I feel like an idiot. Heh, that makes a <strong><em>lot</em></strong> more sense! Although it would be pretty interesting to see how Cuphead plays on a Key/Mouse.</p>
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Probably like ass. That's why use a USB controller.</p>
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It makes no sense to me why people get a game on the computer just to use a controller... I understand if it was a computer only game and it allowed controller input, but if it's on both systems why?</p>
</blockquote><p>Cody doesn’t have an Xbox, as far as I know.  Probably doesn’t matter for Cuphead, as I think it runs fine on Xbox, but there’s also performance considerations for playing on a computer.  A controller works just as well there as it does on console.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>cheapLEY</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Wow, I feel like an idiot. Heh, that makes a <strong><em>lot</em></strong> more sense! Although it would be pretty interesting to see how Cuphead plays on a Key/Mouse.</p>
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Probably like ass. That's why use a USB controller.</p>
</blockquote><p>It makes no sense to me why people get a game on the computer just to use a controller... I understand if it was a computer only game and it allowed controller input, but if it's on both systems why?</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow, I feel like an idiot. Heh, that makes a <strong><em>lot</em></strong> more sense! Although it would be pretty interesting to see how Cuphead plays on a Key/Mouse.</p>
</blockquote><p>Probably like ass. That's why use a USB controller.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>He read iOS (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>FWIW, I did too :p</p>
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Now that WOULD totally suck :-p</p>
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Nahhhh, you don't need to use your fingers, you just use the accelerometer/motion controls to move everything! Easy <strong>and </strong>responsive!</p>
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One legitimate criticism I do have of the game is that it limits you to firing in 8 directions. We live in a world of analog sticks now. Especially when you lock position you should be able to fire in any direction the precision of the analog stick allows. I mean, even earthworm Jim on the genesis let you fire in 64 different directions…</p>
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Constraints are a large part of game design and I imagine that they carefully decided to go with 8 directions for a reason.</p>
</blockquote><p>Possibly, but it feels archaic. I have always thought a run and gun that decouples aiming from movement would open up so many possibilities:</p>
<p>Left stick to move. Right Stick to aim. Trigger or bumper to fire / jump / special. The ability to finely tune the directionality of the shots independent from movement could create some really cool challenges. Imagine having to simultaneously dodge boss shots while threading the needle and shooting a narrow weak point.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Ohhhh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I feel like an idiot. Heh, that makes a <strong><em>lot</em></strong> more sense! Although it would be pretty interesting to see how Cuphead plays on a Key/Mouse.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<title>He read iOS (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>FWIW, I did too :p</p>
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Now that WOULD totally suck :-p</p>
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Nahhhh, you don't need to use your fingers, you just use the accelerometer/motion controls to move everything! Easy <strong>and </strong>responsive!</p>
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One legitimate criticism I do have of the game is that it limits you to firing in 8 directions. We live in a world of analog sticks now. Especially when you lock position you should be able to fire in any direction the precision of the analog stick allows. I mean, even earthworm Jim on the genesis let you fire in 64 different directions…</p>
</blockquote><p>Constraints are a large part of game design and I imagine that they carefully decided to go with 8 directions for a reason.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<title>He read iOS (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>FWIW, I did too :p</p>
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Now that WOULD totally suck :-p</p>
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Nahhhh, you don't need to use your fingers, you just use the accelerometer/motion controls to move everything! Easy <strong>and </strong>responsive!</p>
</blockquote><p> One legitimate criticism I do have of the game is that it limits you to firing in 8 directions. We live in a world of analog sticks now. Especially when you lock position you should be able to fire in any direction the precision of the analog stick allows. I mean, even earthworm Jim on the genesis let you fire in 64 different directions…</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>He read iOS (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>FWIW, I did too :p</p>
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Now that WOULD totally suck :-p</p>
</blockquote><p>Nahhhh, you don't need to use your fingers, you just use the accelerometer/motion controls to move everything! Easy <strong>and </strong>responsive!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>He read iOS (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FWIW, I did too :p</p>
</blockquote><p>Now that WOULD totally suck :-p</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>He read iOS (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I did too :p</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>Oh Gawd. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A billion bullets and hazards flying everywhere on a tiny screen...<em>which is then covered by your thumbs.</em></p>
<p>Now THAT is the ultimate rage quit challenge. XD</p>
</blockquote><p>Why are you playing it on a tiny screen and taking your hands off the controller?</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Oh Gawd. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSX, not iOS.   Mac, not iPhone.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>cheapLEY</dc:creator>
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<title>Oh Gawd. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A billion bullets and hazards flying everywhere on a tiny screen...<em>which is then covered by your thumbs.</em></p>
<p>Now THAT is the ultimate rage quit challenge. XD</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<title>I just found out… (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cuphead is now out for OS X!</p>
<p>That's it. Clear my month.</p>
</blockquote><p>Got it and started playing.</p>
<p>1. Cuphead is not as hard as I was led to believe.<br />
2. Cuphead freaking rules. It's no Metal Slug but it's close. Kind of different in that it's mostly a boss rush though.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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