I desperately want to see community goals come to Destiny.

Been building roads in Death Stranding? :-p

So... Community Events?

Yeah, exactly that, except not as a half-assed one off that happened once in five years.

BOOOOOOORING! Which, by the way, is a fancy way of saying Wu is going to like this. ;P

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Warframe did, at one point. It still does some of what I’m talking about on a smaller scale with its clan system, where all the members can contribute resources to unlock rare blueprints for gear and items (or even just unique paint colors).

See last comment.

I appreciate the stepping away aspect, but the nature of the way seasons work already negate that. If you miss a season, you can’t just go back and do it later. So why not let something have a real impact?

I'm not getting the "Undying" Title. Part of the reason is because I stepped away to play other things. Once this season ends, that's it. I can't get it. The ability to earn it is gone. Bummer, but it's ok.

If it was some Story based thing though... OH MAN. Don't want to miss that! Plus I want to see what the Artisans at Bungie made! Even though the results were unfortunately not the same for all, I got the same(ish) visceral thrill from the Vex "suddenly"invading the moon, as I might have from something that actually had some story contingency bite.

Real impact is more than one thing, and in a very real way, I'm kind of glad there isn't more impact (as stated).

I’m also of the kind that failure is more interesting. What if we hadn’t gathered enough Vex components by the end of the season, and now the Undying Mind is doing some bad shit because we didn’t stop him.

What if the Psions win, and now we have to live in the reality (if even only briefly) where we lost the Red War?

Again, I realize that it might just be asking for too much, for Bungie to have to plan for two contingencies based on whether we succeed or fail a season, but it doesn’t even necessarily have to be on some massive scale. I just want to see some real stakes, with the real possibility of failure on the community scale. My Guardian hasn’t finished the newest raid (hell, she never killed Riven), but the game still moves forward like she did. Stuff like that can’t necessarily change, but setting community goals that the players might fail with real consequences could go a long way.

So... Community Events?

Season Pass

So... is it just me, or does it look like this Hand Cannon has Two Barrels?

I presume this is the Symmetry Pulse that we'll be getting hands on to in a week.

Everyone Gets*

BOOOOOOORING! Which, by the way, is a fancy way of saying Wu is going to like this. ;P

*May Or May Not Include Shown Weapons.

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A very Subtle TRON look.

That, and it seems a bit self-defeating / wasteful to design content and story paths for the people who aren’t playing your game...

Also: Saint-14. :)

I appreciate the stepping away aspect, but the nature of the way seasons work already negate that. If you miss a season, you can’t just go back and do it later. So why not let something have a real impact?

I’m also of the kind that failure is more interesting. What if we hadn’t gathered enough Vex components by the end of the season, and now the Undying Mind is doing some bad shit because we didn’t stop him.

What if the Psions win, and now we have to live in the reality (if even only briefly) where we lost the Red War?

Again, I realize that it might just be asking for too much, for Bungie to have to plan for two contingencies based on whether we succeed or fail a season, but it doesn’t even necessarily have to be on some massive scale. I just want to see some real stakes, with the real possibility of failure on the community scale. My Guardian hasn’t finished the newest raid (hell, she never killed Riven), but the game still moves forward like she did. Stuff like that can’t necessarily change, but setting community goals that the players might fail with real consequences could go a long way.

This is something that’s been discussed, but it hit me particularly hard for some reason.

So the Cabal want to undo our victory in the Red War. But that won’t happen. I could ignore this season and we i play again in a few months, nothing would be any different. There are still no actual stakes, no ramifications for our actions or non-actions.

This season we were tasked with gathering Vex components to build the gate. But that didn’t matter. Gate progress wasn’t actually tied to how many parts we gathered, it was completely arbitrary. Everyone could have collectively stopped killing Vex altogether, and the gate would have been built week by week still.

I desperately want to see community goals come to Destiny. I want failure to be a real possibility beyond just on the individual level. Put a massive challenge in front of us, with the real possibility that it might not be something we complete. What would happen if those Psion Flayers actually achieve their goals?

Maybe I’m asking to much, for the community to be able to dictate so much of the story. But it feels necessary to get anything in Destiny to feel like it matters. I certainly haven’t killed the Undying Mind. But it’s fine, someone else took care of it.

I agree, but I also don't mind it. Makes it easier to step away from Destiny. I get a few weeks in, play some fresh content, step away, play other games. I know I've heard of this concept before in other games, but at present moment I'm drawing a blank. What other games use such a system? I want to say EVE, but I'm not too sure.

So the Cabal want to undo our victory in the Red War. But that won’t happen. I could ignore this season and we i play again in a few months, nothing would be any different. There are still no actual stakes, no ramifications for our actions or non-actions.

This season we were tasked with gathering Vex components to build the gate. But that didn’t matter. Gate progress wasn’t actually tied to how many parts we gathered, it was completely arbitrary. Everyone could have collectively stopped killing Vex altogether, and the gate would have been built week by week still.

I desperately want to see community goals come to Destiny. I want failure to be a real possibility beyond just on the individual level. Put a massive challenge in front of us, with the real possibility that it might not be something we complete. What would happen if those Psion Flayers actually achieve their goals?

Maybe I’m asking to much, for the community to be able to dictate so much of the story. But it feels necessary to get anything in Destiny to feel like it matters. I certainly haven’t killed the Undying Mind. But it’s fine, someone else took care of it.

But to be fair, how couldn't I?