Also, I don't think I've ever played a game on my phone where I said "That was an amazing 5 hours of gameplay."

Superbrothers Sword and Sworcery EP.

Is this a game that can be picked up and put down in 5 minute chunks? Is it satisfying if I play 5 hours in 300 chunks of time? That to me is a mobile phone game. Hey, I'm waiting in line for my coffee, I have a mobile device to fill some time. Hey, I'm waiting for my code to compile, maybe I can get one fight in. That is what I use my phone for, if I have more than 30 minutes I'll go play on my xbox.

This is why I questioned if an amazing 5 hour game is worth it on a mobile device. If it requires chuncks of 60 minutes than I think it would be much better on other platforms.

Apple Arcade games are playable across iPhone, iPad, TV and Mac. Every one of them.

But, since I heard you like 5 hour games you can play in 5 minute chunks, may I introduce you to "What the Golf?" — the best game I played last year.

I've heard of this game and I keep forgetting about it! Maybe this time I won't?

Also, I don't think I've ever played a game on my phone where I said "That was an amazing 5 hours of gameplay."

Superbrothers Sword and Sworcery EP.

Is this a game that can be picked up and put down in 5 minute chunks? Is it satisfying if I play 5 hours in 300 chunks of time? That to me is a mobile phone game. Hey, I'm waiting in line for my coffee, I have a mobile device to fill some time. Hey, I'm waiting for my code to compile, maybe I can get one fight in. That is what I use my phone for, if I have more than 30 minutes I'll go play on my xbox.

This is why I questioned if an amazing 5 hour game is worth it on a mobile device. If it requires chuncks of 60 minutes than I think it would be much better on other platforms.

Apple Arcade games are playable across iPhone, iPad, TV and Mac. Every one of them.

But, since I heard you like 5 hour games you can play in 5 minute chunks, may I introduce you to "What the Golf?" — the best game I played last year.

Also, I don't think I've ever played a game on my phone where I said "That was an amazing 5 hours of gameplay."

Superbrothers Sword and Sworcery EP.

Is this a game that can be picked up and put down in 5 minute chunks? Is it satisfying if I play 5 hours in 300 chunks of time? That to me is a mobile phone game. Hey, I'm waiting in line for my coffee, I have a mobile device to fill some time. Hey, I'm waiting for my code to compile, maybe I can get one fight in. That is what I use my phone for, if I have more than 30 minutes I'll go play on my xbox.

This is why I questioned if an amazing 5 hour game is worth it on a mobile device. If it requires chuncks of 60 minutes than I think it would be much better on other platforms.

Also, I don't think I've ever played a game on my phone where I said "That was an amazing 5 hours of gameplay."

Superbrothers Sword and Sworcery EP.

If a game want's to maximize my screen time, it has to be fun.

It is not an either-or type thing, as much as you make it out to be. Fun is subjective. You know this.

There's apparently no room for an amazing 5 hour experience on Apple Arcade. It will never have its own Portal.

Yeah, that's what the App Store is for. Also, I don't think I've ever played a game on my phone where I said "That was an amazing 5 hours of gameplay." And then just moved on to some other game. Maybe if you are marketing for 5 hours of mind blowing gameplay don't market it to a mobile phone game subscription service. There is a reason that RTS's do horribly on Console, because they aren't built for that.

If a game want's to maximize my screen time, it has to be fun.

It is not an either-or type thing, as much as you make it out to be. Fun is subjective. You know this.

There's apparently no room for an amazing 5 hour experience on Apple Arcade. It will never have its own Portal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-30/apple-cancels-arcade-games-in-strategy-shift-to-keep-subscribers

The Cupertino, California-based technology giant scrapped development contracts with multiple game studios earlier this year and informed them of the new approach, according to people familiar with the matter.

On calls in mid-April, an Apple Arcade creative producer told some developers that their upcoming games didn’t have the level of “engagement” Apple is seeking, the people said. Apple is increasingly interested in titles that will keep users hooked, so subscribers stay beyond the free trial of the service, according to the people.

Look at that. This is the future if Apple Arcade and Xbox live pass become the norm. Games designed to maximize screen time rather than fun.

If a game want's to maximize my screen time, it has to be fun.

It is not an either-or type thing, as much as you make it out to be. Fun is subjective. You know this.

Every debate about pricing and microtransaction should stop here. The fact of the matter is that a single lump sum for your game is what maximizes game quality. Everything else requires compromises.

the time Netflix killed movie theaters

It wasn't Netflix that killed them…

Talk to me again when this is even close to reality. I’ll keep holding my breath.

P.S. Where do you buy your weed, it seems like it must be extremely good shit and I’d like to try it. I’m always down for a little drug induced paranoia. (:

You’re using weird hypotheticals to make your point, and I just don’t see it as warranted. Apple not funding some game because it’s not designed the right way for them doesn’t prevent that game from being made, it just means that developer needs to look elsewhere for funding.

One day, when gaming subscription services are your only choice, then anywhere you seek funding will have the same requirements…

You’re using weird hypotheticals to make your point, and I just don’t see it as warranted. Apple not funding some game because it’s not designed the right way for them doesn’t prevent that game from being made, it just means that developer needs to look elsewhere for funding. It’s exactly the same as any other industry where you look for funding to make something. If I pitch a game to MS and they say no, that doesn’t mean they prevented my game from existing.

Except Xbox Game Pass isn’t the way to play them, so I’m not sure what the point you’re reaching for even is.

Yes. That's the point I am making. BECAUSE it wasn't the only way to get them, those games exist. But if in the future, the Xbox or gaming in general is subscription only, like Apple Arcade is now, some of those games may not even be able to be made.