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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Okay, your numbers are a little off (Leviathan armor is 7&amp;8, not 8&amp;9, and Garden armor is 7-9, not 8-10), but in general, I agree with your arguments, except I can't understand why you say Leviathan armor (which is the same as Garden armor except that it can't use season 9 mods) is better than Garden armor.</p>
<p>Can you clarify?</p>
</blockquote><p>I got mixed up with the seasons because Bungie says specifically, &quot;...Seasons 8-11 have had their Seasonal mod sockets replaced with a single, unified Legacy mod socket that can socket all...&quot;.  For some reason I just assumed that also meant Leviathan armor, which can slot Seasons 7-8.  Season 7 mods (Leviathan specific mods) are being depreciated, so I'm not sure where that leaves Leviathan armor.  Just Season 8 mods with a power cap of 1360?  Seems like an oversight from Bungie.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does this help?</p>
</blockquote><p>Very nice infographic, that's exactly what I was hoping to find.  </p>
<blockquote><p>I sure do hope (and perhaps this is a given) that you aren't throwing away armors due to available mod slots alone. The stats of a roll and even the appearance of said armors (through probably less of a factor now) should be part of the considerations too. Personal taste may very.</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm looking for vault efficiency, so if 1 vault slot covers more options, that's important to me.  I've got &quot;pretty good&quot; 60+ rolls on almost everything now.  Looks usually seem to work themselves out mostly, and if not I can just enjoy Nico complaining about my hideous Titan helmets.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Has anyone been able to parse this into a set of recommendations for armor to keep moving forward?  Here's my attempt:</p>
<p>Seasons 4 &amp; 5 (Scourge or Last Wish Armor): only useful for the current season even though they have a power cap of 1360.  Use for soloing Prophecy w/ Taken mods, probably delete after Beyond Light is released.</p>
<p>Seasons 8-11 (Current Leviathan, Garden, and world armor): These previously had a 1up/1down season for mod application, but that will change to be all of seasons 8-11 mods when Beyond Light comes out.  Also, you will want to replace all your Garden armor from these seasons with the new armor that will have an additional dedicated raid slot (so you can use Charged With Light and Enhanced Relay Defender at the same time).  Therefore, the best armor to keep here is actually either the Leviathan armor or armor from the current season (Arrivals), both of which have a power cap of 1360.  This is actually a significant change from before this announcement, as Garden armor (currently slots seasons 8-10) was previously strictly better than Leviathan armor (currently slots seasons 8 &amp; 9). The upshot of this is that Leviathan armor is pretty easy to get, either through turning in tokens to Benedict or farming encounters.  And it looks cool.  Too bad I already deleted a bunch of good rolls.</p>
<p>Does that make sense to the preppers out there?</p>
</blockquote><p><a rel="thumbnail" href="https://i.imgur.com/imcm94E.png"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/imcm94E.png" class="thumbnail" alt="[image]" /></a><br />
<span style="font-size:smaller;"><a href="https://dm.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/j8vnmv/season_12_mod_change_infographic/">[Source]</a></span></p>
<p>Does this help?</p>
<p>I sure do hope (and perhaps this is a given) that you aren't throwing away armors due to available mod slots alone. The stats of a roll and even the appearance of said armors (through probably less of a factor now) should be part of the considerations too. Personal taste may very.</p>
<p>I think it too early to do anything maintenance wise. I'm waiting about a week or two before I sit down and commit to some vault maintenance.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he only means that Leviathan is better to keep around, as Garden armor should be farmed again for the extra mod slot next season.  </p>
<p>My strategy is just to ignore it.  I’ve got one set of the current season armor that’s built how I like that will work well for the beginning of next season, so I’ll start building next season when I won’t have to worry about how the seasonal mod compatibility works out.  All of the new sets will be straight up better than anything you can earn now, so why worry about it now?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, your numbers are a little off (Leviathan armor is 7&amp;8, not 8&amp;9, and Garden armor is 7-9, not 8-10), but in general, I agree with your arguments, except I can't understand why you say Leviathan armor (which is the same as Garden armor except that it can't use season 9 mods) is better than Garden armor.</p>
<p>Can you clarify?</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone been able to parse this into a set of recommendations for armor to keep moving forward?  Here's my attempt:</p>
<p>Seasons 4 &amp; 5 (Scourge or Last Wish Armor): only useful for the current season even though they have a power cap of 1360.  Use for soloing Prophecy w/ Taken mods, probably delete after Beyond Light is released.</p>
<p>Seasons 8-11 (Current Leviathan, Garden, and world armor): These previously had a 1up/1down season for mod application, but that will change to be all of seasons 8-11 mods when Beyond Light comes out.  Also, you will want to replace all your Garden armor from these seasons with the new armor that will have an additional dedicated raid slot (so you can use Charged With Light and Enhanced Relay Defender at the same time).  Therefore, the best armor to keep here is actually either the Leviathan armor or armor from the current season (Arrivals), both of which have a power cap of 1360.  This is actually a significant change from before this announcement, as Garden armor (currently slots seasons 8-10) was previously strictly better than Leviathan armor (currently slots seasons 8 &amp; 9). The upshot of this is that Leviathan armor is pretty easy to get, either through turning in tokens to Benedict or farming encounters.  And it looks cool.  Too bad I already deleted a bunch of good rolls.</p>
<p>Does that make sense to the preppers out there?</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>I love these changes (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I'm also really worried that I'll do a bad job of analyzing what they said about upcoming armor, and the cleanup I do will do more harm than good. :(</p>
</blockquote><p>Just do the cleanup.  Clean slate, baby!  Other than some armor sets I might like to have for possible transmog, and some weapons that have some sentimental value (though that’s sort of ridiculous—I can’t bring myself to delete the not great Bygones that I masterworked and used for Crucible for that entire year), my vault is empty.  I think I’m using like 90 some odd slots.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2020 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>I&#039;m really feeling that last sentance. (reply)</title>
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<title>That&#039;s a good point. (reply)</title>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>It was a drag feeling like I was short-changing myself if I didn't get both these mods and armor that would last that could have them.</p>
<p>This will clean up my vault a bit and also just save me some time pre-Beyond Light.</p>
<p>Also it feels like my builds can be a little more flexible without having to focus on elemental affinity too much.</p>
<p>I've enjoyed putting builds together while still finding it a little cumbersome, I'm hoping this overall improves the experience without removing the ability for us to tailor our builds to do fun wild things.</p>
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Personally, I'm super-unhappy with the idea that this season, I began to seriously focus on upgrading 9 sets of armor for each character (3 each of Season 4/5 armor, 3 each of Season 8 armor, and 3 each of Season 11 armor) - a significant chunk of this work (most of it, probably) is wasted. A heads-up before now would have been greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Yes, my vault will breathe a sigh of relief. I can't help but wonder, though, how far I could have gotten on other goals that I chose not to pursue because I spent so much time doing this.</p>
<p>I'm also really worried that I'll do a bad job of analyzing what they said about upcoming armor, and the cleanup I do will do more harm than good. :(</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm also looking back at the time I spent trying to get the mods and armor across 3 characters and paying attention to what was maxing out at 1060, I really think they should have announced this way back with the content vaulting (I get it that maybe they only settled on this recently, but that doesn't make it sting less).</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 18:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That definitely sucks.  </p>
<p>I hope this is the foundation for what they stick with going forward.  Sunsetting is bad enough, if they’re going to change the way mods works every year . . . man, just what a pain in the ass.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was a drag feeling like I was short-changing myself if I didn't get both these mods and armor that would last that could have them.</p>
<p>This will clean up my vault a bit and also just save me some time pre-Beyond Light.</p>
<p>Also it feels like my builds can be a little more flexible without having to focus on elemental affinity too much.</p>
<p>I've enjoyed putting builds together while still finding it a little cumbersome, I'm hoping this overall improves the experience without removing the ability for us to tailor our builds to do fun wild things.</p>
</blockquote><p>Personally, I'm super-unhappy with the idea that this season, I began to seriously focus on upgrading 9 sets of armor for each character (3 each of Season 4/5 armor, 3 each of Season 8 armor, and 3 each of Season 11 armor) - a significant chunk of this work (most of it, probably) is wasted. A heads-up before now would have been greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Yes, my vault will breathe a sigh of relief. I can't help but wonder, though, how far I could have gotten on other goals that I chose not to pursue because I spent so much time doing this.</p>
<p>I'm also really worried that I'll do a bad job of analyzing what they said about upcoming armor, and the cleanup I do will do more harm than good. :(</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 17:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Why? That’s how everyone else did it, too. (reply)</title>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally some semblance of balance in Gambit matches now. And that's coming from someone who absolutely abused my Armaments mods.</p>
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<title>RIP Taken mods on everything in Gambit.... (reply)</title>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I have a very hard time limit to get mine now :P</p>
<p>Like hell I'll be able to do it <em>without</em> all those mods</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a drag feeling like I was short-changing myself if I didn't get both these mods and armor that would last that could have them.</p>
<p>This will clean up my vault a bit and also just save me some time pre-Beyond Light.</p>
<p>Also it feels like my builds can be a little more flexible without having to focus on elemental affinity too much.</p>
<p>I've enjoyed putting builds together while still finding it a little cumbersome, I'm hoping this overall improves the experience without removing the ability for us to tailor our builds to do fun wild things.</p>
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<title>just wanna clarify that I DO think this is a GOOD change (reply)</title>
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<title>:-\ I now feel like my Solo Flawless has an asterisk.... (reply)</title>
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<title>TWAB - 8th of October 2020 ~ Modding the Mod System (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gah!</p>
<p>All of the mod stuff is probably for the best, but it sure would have been nice to know this earlier before my elaborate quests to obtain armor of all the flavors to cover all seasons of mods, and running the sparrow section of Scourge so much (just got Fallen Barrier last night).</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah. My first thought was of your endevors. My second thhought was, &quot;boy... glad I didn't get around to asking everyone to help me get the fallen mods&quot; (as I currently have none).</p>
<p><em><strong> HA!</strong></em> Procrastination for the win! TAKE THAT MRS.VIEBROCK! ;P</p>
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