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Bungie Announces Key Talent Additions and Investments at the Executive Level in Preparation for Future IP Growth and Expanding the Highly-Acclaimed and Successful Destiny Universe into New Media.

This is going to be critical for crafting affecting Destiny stories in film / tv. Bungie will have to deal with this, and grapple with making a successful adaptation.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176245 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176245 Thu, 09 Sep 2021 18:30:04 +0000 Off-TopicCody Miller
Yikes (reply) https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176230 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176230 Wed, 08 Sep 2021 13:15:06 +0000 Off-TopicZackDark World Building over storytelling (reply)

Dune was not released in 2 parts…


Correct—it was released in like 30 parts, and 27 of them fucking suck.

Fun fact: the twitter handle of Brian Herbert is "DuneAuthor"

lol

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176229 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176229 Wed, 08 Sep 2021 06:40:12 +0000 Off-TopicCody Miller
World Building over storytelling (reply)

Dune was not released in 2 parts…

Correct—it was released in like 30 parts, and 27 of them fucking suck.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176228 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176228 Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:32:16 +0000 Off-TopiccheapLEY
World Building over storytelling (reply)

It sounds good enough for me at the moment, but isn't this foreseeable given the Part 1 thing? In the book that's certainly right when things get "woozy and amorphous" in the words of the critic.


This is exactly the point. Much like Destiny, you don’t get to do a ton of world building while neglecting the story, with the promise that it’ll all make sense or be satisfying later.


Given the popularity of both Dune and Destiny, I’d say the exact opposite of what you’re saying is true.

Dune was not released in 2 parts…

And Destiny has many strengths besides the narrative.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176227 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176227 Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:17:09 +0000 Off-TopicCody Miller
This (reply)

Still annoyed they'll first wait for the first movie's (which apparently covers about half of the book) success before committing to a sequel, though...

Yeah, I'm worried about that--especially with Covid and all. It would be a great shame if the rest of it did not get made. I'm re-reading Dune now. It's a marvel of world-building, and that's a big part of what makes it so great. But it also casts a spell that keeps you reading to see what happens. The movie, if it works, should do the same. If the novel doesn't work its magic, you put it down, but people will sit through a movie regardless, especially if they're paid to write about it. If you're focusing on the illogic of the 'thopters like that reviewer did, I'd say definitively that the magic isn't working.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176224 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176224 Sun, 05 Sep 2021 03:20:42 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
This (reply) Still annoyed they'll first wait for the first movie's (which apparently covers about half of the book) success before commiting to a sequel, though...

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176223 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176223 Sun, 05 Sep 2021 02:57:43 +0000 Off-TopicZackDark
World Building over storytelling (reply) I think you’re making a category error. Doing a decent job of adapting Dune almost requires breaking it up into multiple movies. It makes sense that the first one would focus on world building. Those hoping for a complete story arc might be expecting dessert for the appetizer.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176221 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176221 Sat, 04 Sep 2021 14:42:33 +0000 Off-TopicKermit
Does it? (reply)

https://variety.com/2021/film/reviews/dune-review-spectacular-and-engrossing-until-it-isnt-1235051928

Here’s one useful definition of a great sci-fi fantasy film. It’s one in which the world-building is awesome but not more essential than the storytelling… Viewed in that light, “Dune” is a movie that earns five stars for world-building and about two-and-a-half for storytelling.


Sounds familiar.

1st: On the Dune (2021) side of things, there is as of this posting currently 27 reviews for this movie. It stands at 85%, with 27 reviews, that's 4 Rotten & 23 Fresh. This Variety.com review is one of the 4 current "rotten" reviews.

2nd: As ever the pattern, it is obvious there is some point attempted here upon Destiny because... erm... quota? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ... this take is increasingly out of date, if not by now rotten as the review aforementioned. Instead the discussion should be on how much Destinies presentation of story has improved in-game (at least for we mere mortals), but I guess hur-der Destiny bad still. There was CERTAINLY a time for such but is now, as I state again, is ever increasingly woefully out of date.

3rd: None of this needed to be said, and so for me to feel that my post is worth posting, I shall now pay the internet obligated cat tax.

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Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176215 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176215 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 21:11:07 +0000 Off-TopicINSANEdrive
World Building over storytelling (reply)

It sounds good enough for me at the moment, but isn't this foreseeable given the Part 1 thing? In the book that's certainly right when things get "woozy and amorphous" in the words of the critic.


This is exactly the point. Much like Destiny, you don’t get to do a ton of world building while neglecting the story, with the promise that it’ll all make sense or be satisfying later.

Given the popularity of both Dune and Destiny, I’d say the exact opposite of what you’re saying is true.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176214 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176214 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 20:51:01 +0000 Off-TopiccheapLEY
World Building over storytelling (reply)

It sounds good enough for me at the moment, but isn't this foreseeable given the Part 1 thing? In the book that's certainly right when things get "woozy and amorphous" in the words of the critic.


This is exactly the point. Much like Destiny, you don’t get to do a ton of world building while neglecting the story, with the promise that it’ll all make sense or be satisfying later.

I think you can do whatever you want if people want what you are selling them, but this seems different than Destiny given the fact that it's an adaptation and we kinda know how it goes.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176213 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176213 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 20:37:43 +0000 Off-Topicsquidnh3
World Building over storytelling (reply)

It sounds good enough for me at the moment, but isn't this foreseeable given the Part 1 thing? In the book that's certainly right when things get "woozy and amorphous" in the words of the critic.

This is exactly the point. Much like Destiny, you don’t get to do a ton of world building while neglecting the story, with the promise that it’ll all make sense or be satisfying later.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176212 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176212 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 20:07:53 +0000 Off-TopicCody Miller
World Building over storytelling (reply) Having read Dune for the first time earlier this year, yeah, that sounds about right.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176208 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176208 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:06:37 +0000 Off-TopicCyberKN
World Building over storytelling (reply) It sounds good enough for me at the moment, but isn't this foreseeable given the Part 1 thing? In the book that's certainly right when things get "woozy and amorphous" in the words of the critic.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176206 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176206 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 18:42:26 +0000 Off-Topicsquidnh3
World Building over storytelling https://variety.com/2021/film/reviews/dune-review-spectacular-and-engrossing-until-it-isnt-1235051928

Here’s one useful definition of a great sci-fi fantasy film. It’s one in which the world-building is awesome but not more essential than the storytelling… Viewed in that light, “Dune” is a movie that earns five stars for world-building and about two-and-a-half for storytelling.

Sounds familiar.

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https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176205 https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=176205 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 18:31:52 +0000 Off-TopicCody Miller