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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You mean reading the cliffsnotes doesn’t count as reading the book?</p>
</blockquote><p>It’s why I appreciated a video and not a bullet point. Seeing the things, especially the store fronts and the ability to purchase season pass ranks was very helpful for getting a better picture.</p>
<p>You could explain to me in text how scummy Diablo Immortal was, but seeing it in action with Josh Hayes explaining gave a more complete picture.</p>
<p>But it could still have been done in half the time, missing nothing. I’ll happily watch Lindsay Ellis for an hour, Dan Olsen for 160 minutes, or Contrapoints for 2 hours, but that’s because they are generally efficient with their arguments as well as entertaining. You can stop for jokes!</p>
<p>But those people who upload 8 minute tutorials for some function of a software program where a bullet point list of steps WOULD work better… screw them.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 16:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Aztecross cooks his magnum opus... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#039;m watching it right now, and literally loaded this to post it. Glad you beat me to it. I mean...jfc.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a hotel room and nothing else to do so I watched the whole thing. I never got bored. It was broken up into sections (which was timestamped at the beginning) and each section gave examples and evidence for his arguments. So it wasn&#039;t 35 minutes of blowharding.</p>
<p>fwiwimho, idk.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 15:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ManKitten</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean reading the cliffsnotes doesn’t count as reading the book?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>cheapLEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>There’s no reason this topic couldn’t have been condensed into a shorter frame of time.</p>
<p>Ten minutes max.</p>
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And it could be a 2 minute read at that.</p>
</blockquote><p>Literally any video of any length could be summarized in a two minute read. Asking for a list of bullet points misses any context or nuance for the why and the when and any details therein.</p>
<p>Bungie’s Microtransaction journey has been a devious and patient one, slowly weeding itself into the game and players’ psyche ever since it was first introduced, with some changes barely digging in this season.</p>
<p>You can listen to the first 50 seconds and then hear “Bungie crossed every single one of these lines”. And there you go. Under a minute.<br />
IMO that’s such an uninformed way to accept or reject any stance. The journey is the thing.</p>
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You don’t have to sit and stare at the screen while the points are being made, so I dunno. Media literacy is the talk of gaming Twitter this week, and man, I see folks that just make me sad.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 07:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There’s no reason this topic couldn’t have been condensed into a shorter frame of time.</p>
<p>Ten minutes max.</p>
</blockquote><p>And it could be a 2 minute read at that.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 01:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s no reason this topic couldn’t have been condensed into a shorter frame of time.</p>
<p>Ten minutes max.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, just because you have the attention span of a goldfish . . . </p>
<p>(:</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The pacing is flawless,</p>
</blockquote><p>Dude, I had to go double speed after about 2 minutes. I… would dispute this assessment haha.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 05:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 02:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>It&#039;s a fantastic watch, and might even bring to the forefront a number of issues that have been buzzing in your ear, but that you couldn&#039;t see.</p>
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I don&#039;t do video essays</p>
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Destiny 2 has become a Microtransaction Hell.</p>
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Is it the seasonal model being a transaction on top of I think the weird pass that gives you access to the dungeons?</p>
</blockquote><p>On top of Event Passes, on top of all legacy content existing as individual purchases and mix n&#039;match bundles, on top of Battle pass level skips selling weapons, resources, and armor Day 1 of a new season, on top of constant popups for content that you don&#039;t own, on top of...</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 01:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>It&#039;s a fantastic watch, and might even bring to the forefront a number of issues that have been buzzing in your ear, but that you couldn&#039;t see.</p>
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I don&#039;t do video essays</p>
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Destiny 2 has become a Microtransaction Hell.</p>
</blockquote><p>Is it the seasonal model being a transaction on top of I think the weird pass that gives you access to the dungeons?</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 01:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>It&#039;s a fantastic watch, and might even bring to the forefront a number of issues that have been buzzing in your ear, but that you couldn&#039;t see.</p>
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I don&#039;t do video essays</p>
</blockquote><p>Destiny 2 has become a Microtransaction Hell.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, it&#039;s not a build, but a critique of the entire structure.</p>
<p>Bungie&#039;s monetization structure, actually- which has (very slowly) crept up on its users and consumed them while making them feel like they&#039;re being nurtured by it.</p>
<p>The pacing is flawless, the points well-informed, and the sense of betrayal palpable throughout.<br />
I think this is a great way of consolidating all of the issues that I&#039;ve had with Destiny over several years (and I&#039;m glad that he takes a moment to highlight how a certain other game avoided all of the shortcomings that Bungie&#039;s had with Destiny).</p>
<p>It&#039;s a fantastic watch, and might even bring to the forefront a number of issues that have been buzzing in your ear, but that you couldn&#039;t see.</p>
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<iframe style="border:none;" width="852" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nsIdPWB2_JA?autoplay=0&start="></iframe></p>
</blockquote><p>I don&#039;t do video essays</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 01:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#039;s not a build, but a critique of the entire structure.</p>
<p>Bungie&#039;s monetization structure, actually- which has (very slowly) crept up on its users and consumed them while making them feel like they&#039;re being nurtured by it.</p>
<p>The pacing is flawless, the points well-informed, and the sense of betrayal palpable throughout.<br />
I think this is a great way of consolidating all of the issues that I&#039;ve had with Destiny over several years (and I&#039;m glad that he takes a moment to highlight how a certain other game avoided all of the shortcomings that Bungie&#039;s had with Destiny).</p>
<p>It&#039;s a fantastic watch, and might even bring to the forefront a number of issues that have been buzzing in your ear, but that you couldn&#039;t see.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 00:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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