"LIKE THIS!!"

"You betrayed SonofMacPhisto."

Was it the one the Warthog even bumps someone jetpacking even further off a cliff?

Also, I tried finding a video of you firing a rocket at an enemy and blasting me instead on Reach when I was in a Warthog, but I can't find it. I think I even survived it somehow until a second rocket was fired and hit me. Coulda sworn you or I rendered it, and was trying to include it in my initial post, but I failed. I swear it happened, though. lol

Heh - I don't doubt for a minute that it happened... but unfortunately, I don't remember it, so I can't help you find a film. (I'm not sure if that's just because the steel trap has rusted all to hell or if it's because there have been so many betrayals that they all blend together... :) )

Halotracker says 820 Reach betrayals in 58,000 kills, but 140 Halo 4 betrayals in 30,000 kills, so I'm getting better. :)

Also, I tried finding a video of you firing a rocket at an enemy and blasting me instead on Reach when I was in a Warthog, but I can't find it. I think I even survived it somehow until a second rocket was fired and hit me. Coulda sworn you or I rendered it, and was trying to include it in my initial post, but I failed. I swear it happened, though. lol

You really gotta be careful when pulling that trigger. In Halo 4 I can just jam the trigger with a SAW or blast all the things with a rocket no matter what teammates are around because it won't matter in most of the gametypes.

Well, in one gametype, anyway (Infinity Slayer). Many gametypes now have friendly fire on (Big Team Slayer, Objectives, etc).

This video

You really gotta be careful when pulling that trigger. In Halo 4 I can just jam the trigger with a SAW or blast all the things with a rocket no matter what teammates are around because it won't matter in most of the gametypes. It really mixes things up when you have to make sure you land your shots, or potentially keep from firing that rocket or boosting that Ghost in a crucial and close game where you might end up losing due to a betrayal or two.

But, I really don't want the unwashed rando's shitting on my experience like they have before and most certainly will again. Maybe if you invite them into your fireteam FF can be on, but unchecked I don't think they will be so noble.

The whole idea is ridonkulous.

Bungie will make sure that there are no 'gangs' robbing people we can be sure of that…

I think you are going to be disappointed if you think it's ridiculous then. They have already said people can't attack you at random. I agree with zeouterlimits, I love friendly fire when I pick who plays with me in a game like Halo. I even understand what they are going for in games like Rust and Day Z. In a game like Destiny though, you aren't a random person with questionable alliances running into an unknown entity, you're supposed to be allies on the same team working to save humanity. If a random character could come up to you and shoot you in the face in the middle of your mission and then teabag your body it's little consolation to you if he gets a bad mark on his record, and will make you NOT want to team up with random allies as much. In my opinion different games require different methods of managing randoms, and from what I understand about Destiny I don't think letting anyone shoot anyone at any time will build the environment or community Bungie is aiming for.

Bungie will make sure that there are no 'gangs' robbing people we can be sure of that…

how many times have a ACCIDENTALLY, albeit recklessly naded or even sniped a teamate in the ass today…hilarious…

'sorry' leave friendly fire ON.

All hits ON.

Friendly fire off is just 'fake'.

This. Adding on to what Beorn and Claude have said, I think there's ample argument for it to be left on in all cases. The only times where I think it would need to be off are in coop situations where you run across randos in the wild.

What if I'm out in the distant reaches of wherever, and a rando happens to see me park my Pike and take up a position ready to engage some baddies. If he wanted to steal or destroy my Pike, well, that sucks. But I could always call in my custom ride, right? So the griefer wouldn't be affecting my overall mobility. But should he be able to damage me? If it's not someone on my fire team, I'd say no. Better to offer the small and redundant incentive towards teamwork and get John Rando to target the same creeps that I am. After the fight we could party up or whatever, and then once the level of voice communication is established and he's in that little circle of trust, sure. Friendly-fire it up. Because then your newfound friend, even if he's got a stripe of jerkface in him, has the option to revive you if he TK's you.

There could be some kind of punishment tied to reputation that would act as a disincentive to greifers that abuse that level of leniency.

Furthermore, if randos encounter each other and find a way to "abuse" the FF=off aspect of this concept in order to leverage explosions for altitude, I say reward the frogblasting.

~m