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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I ain't mad, but I would like to know how it's all going to work ahead of time so I can plan accordingly.   If I gotta pay twice, so be it.  I just want to know for sure, or at least leave a nice enough sob story that they might feel generous.  :P</p>
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I know it's not what you want to hear, and I don't want to sound all &quot;Korny&quot; about it, but your Destiny experience, especially since you want to game with your family, is better suited to PS4. For now. </p>
</blockquote><p>I keep seeing this and I don't know what people are basing it on (I know what it might be, but I don't know what people actually have in mind).</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Korny, you keep mentioning season passes transfer between PS3 and PS4, can you confirm individual DLC's do as well?</p>
</blockquote><p>The only example that I can find info on for individual DLC is CoD Ghosts, and according to Activision regarding the Playstation versions:</p>
<p>&quot;DLC purchased on PlayStation 3 will transfer to PlayStation 4.<br />
DLC purchased on PlayStation 4 will transfer to PlayStation 3.&quot;</p>
<p>Supposedly <strong>not</strong> affected by the Season Pass, which the Xbox version requires, though people on Forums have been having issues with this.</p>
<blockquote><p>Don't worry Korny, you can buy that Xbone in confidence now.</p>
</blockquote><p>Well, we've yet to receive word about Destiny, isn't that the point of this thread?</p>
<blockquote><p>EDIT: Here's a quote from the COD Ghosts Season Pass site: <em>Upgrading to a next-gen console? Purchase the Season Pass before May 31, 2014 and the content follows you FREE within a console family, so you can play now and upgrade later.</em></p>
<p>Need confirmation Destiny's season pass is like this or if it's the default way season passes work on next-gen.</p>
</blockquote><p>It's clearly up to Publishers. Activision seems to be okay with a grace period, which is still a little more lenient on Playstation (not requiring season pass), but that may simply be related to how licensing works overall on MS platforms.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I don't know what your expectation was with how DLC was going to work for this game. BF4 would probably be the most recent example to compare it to. </p>
<p>I got some DLC for BF4 on 360, but that DCL doesn't follow me to XB1 because it is a different product, different system. </p>
<p>I've never played a console game where they let you do what you were hoping (if they even exist).</p>
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Totally works with PS3 -&gt; PS4. Actually, it even works retroactively. I got the Battlefield Premium pass on PS4, but I am able to use it on PS3.</p>
<p>Also, all of my Last of Us season pass content from PS3 transfers over to PS4's Last of Us Remastered, despite it technically being a &quot;different&quot; game.</p>
<p>No doubt Destiny will be the same, given the DLC track record.</p>
<p>Heck, They are making PS4 versions of The Unfinished Swan and Journey (amazing experience), and if you own the PS3 versions (which were free on PS+), you get the new PS4 versions free, and with Share Play, All of your friends can give it a go as well for free...</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>For folks wanting to play Destiny on three different systems, you all are gonna have to make peace with the fact that you'll have to buy the same content 3 times. </p>
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Sadly, in most cases, <a href="http://i.imgur.com/I3EKs.gif">yes.</a> Which actually kind of sucks for me because since we only need to buy one copy and one season pass for our two PS4s, I was hoping to pick up an extra one for the 360, and the ability to ugrade it to the XBONE would have greatly helped boost the odds of an eventual purchase.</p>
</blockquote><p>According this thread: <a href="http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4271/t/1680275.aspx">http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4271/t/1680275.aspx</a></p>
<p>Season Passes may allude the rules of normal DLC. Individual DLC purchases will have to be done on each, but it sounds like Season Passes will be a catch all for the gamertag. </p>
<p>Korny, you keep mentioning season passes transfer between PS3 and PS4, can you confirm individual DLC's do as well?</p>
<p>Don't worry Korny, you can buy that Xbone in confidence now.</p>
<p>EDIT: Here's a quote from the COD Ghosts Season Pass site: <em>Upgrading to a next-gen console? Purchase the Season Pass before May 31, 2014 and the content follows you FREE within a console family, so you can play now and upgrade later.</em></p>
<p>Need confirmation Destiny's season pass is like this or if it's the default way season passes work on next-gen.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 05:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yet another Playstation perk: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-Destiny+Expansion+Pass,28zu0">http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-Destiny+Expansion+Pass,28zu0</a></p>
<p>The expansion pass is $35 on Microsoft platforms... but only $34.99 on Playstation platforms. A penny saved, and all that!</p>
<p>;)</p>
</blockquote><p>That's exactly the sort of earth-shattering news you could post on a front page if you had one.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don't know what your expectation was with how DLC was going to work for this game. BF4 would probably be the most recent example to compare it to. </p>
<p>I got some DLC for BF4 on 360, but that DCL doesn't follow me to XB1 because it is a different product, different system. </p>
<p>I've never played a console game where they let you do what you were hoping (if they even exist).</p>
</blockquote><p>Totally works with PS3 -&gt; PS4. Actually, it even works retroactively. I got the Battlefield Premium pass on PS4, but I am able to use it on PS3.</p>
<p>Also, all of my Last of Us season pass content from PS3 transfers over to PS4's Last of Us Remastered, despite it technically being a &quot;different&quot; game.</p>
<p>No doubt Destiny will be the same, given the DLC track record.</p>
<p>Heck, They are making PS4 versions of The Unfinished Swan and Journey (amazing experience), and if you own the PS3 versions (which were free on PS+), you get the new PS4 versions free, and with Share Play, All of your friends can give it a go as well for free...</p>
<blockquote><p>For folks wanting to play Destiny on three different systems, you all are gonna have to make peace with the fact that you'll have to buy the same content 3 times. </p>
</blockquote><p>Sadly, in most cases, <a href="http://i.imgur.com/I3EKs.gif">yes.</a> Which actually kind of sucks for me because since we only need to buy one copy and one season pass for our two PS4s, I was hoping to pick up an extra one for the 360, and the ability to ugrade it to the XBONE would have greatly helped boost the odds of an eventual purchase.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 02:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do these packs transfer between consoles?  If I buy this for XB1, can I also access it on my 360?  I'm going to be swapping back and forth to play with different people, so does that mean I have to buy it twice?</p>
</blockquote><p>I wonder what kind of data is out there on double-dipping, and what kind of critical conclusions I could make about Microsoft and Sony because of it.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XB1 won me over with the Master Chief Collection.   I really want to play Halo 1 and 2 multiplayer.  Plus starting and maintaining another Destiny character on PS4 would feel like too much work.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I ain't mad, but I would like to know how it's all going to work ahead of time so I can plan accordingly.   If I gotta pay twice, so be it.  I just want to know for sure, or at least leave a nice enough sob story that they might feel generous.  :P</p>
</blockquote><p>I know it's not what you want to hear, and I don't want to sound all &quot;Korny&quot; about it, but your Destiny experience, especially since you want to game with your family, is better suited to PS4. For now. </p>
<p>I know that the start up costs of getting two PS4, and PS+ are cost prohibitive, but in the long run, you should <em>technically</em> save money that way, on games and DLC that is. Maybe.  </p>
<p>However, I agree whole 100% that is a bit of a waste when you have two perfectly good consoles already that are capable of playing. </p>
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If I were you, I'd be doing exactly what you are doing too and moving my character from XB1 to 360 and vice versa.  You've already got equipment that will work, it's just not the most pleasing situation.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Revenant1988</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you're fine. </p>
<p>Some times I don't words gud when I talk type. Formally.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Revenant1988</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lil' Blue will have his own account.  Can I load DLC on both Xboxes with my account?  Will he be able to access it then if he's logged in on one and me on the other?</p>
</blockquote><p>I don't think you can do it with one account, but you can get the content on both consoles. This is how it worked for me for half my Halo 3 DLC:</p>
<p>1.) I have two Xbox 360s. My profile is tied to ONE of the consoles. Here referred to as the primary console. The second console does not have my profile on it at this point.</p>
<p>2.) I buy and download the DLC to my primary console. THat DLC now lives on that console, it is tied to the console. </p>
<p>3.) I sign onto the 2nd console, and download my profile,and any of my past purchased DLC (Much like you've done at a LAN or friends house). <strong>I can only be signed into one console at a time</strong>.</p>
<p>4.) At this point, my DLC and profile exist on two consoles, however, *I*, Revenant, can only be signed into one console at a time. <br />
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   4a.) On the first console, the primary, any one who signs in to that console can use my DLC. So Jackie could play anything installed to my HDD with her live account</p>
<p>   4b.) On the second console, my DLC ONLY WORKS, if *I'm* signed in. </p>
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This is how my old roommate and I got by during Halo 3 and saved a few bucks. </p>
<p>**I do no know if it still works this way. It may not, so take it with a grain of salt. You should be able to test it though. Try another game on 360 that you downloaded DLC to and see if you can figure out which console your account is tied to. That's where your DLC is tied as well. </p>
<p>What I just described above is also similar to how it works *right now* on the PS4. Korny and Syndrome do this method with their games and DLC so they only buy it once. The trade off to this is that the content must be bought digital, if I'm not mistaken. </p>
<p>Dollar for Dollar, the family\couple that games together will save more money on a PS4 this way. The XB1 is not as friendly currently in this respect.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ain't mad, but I would like to know how it's all going to work ahead of time so I can plan accordingly.   If I gotta pay twice, so be it.  I just want to know for sure, or at least leave a nice enough sob story that they might feel generous.  :P</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>bluerunner</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you and I are in complete agreement. For some reason I got something completely different from your posts. I'm starving and I need to go get some food. I hope I didn't step on your toes too much.</p>
<p>Peace bro.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>PackLeader89</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hello,</p>
<p>I see what you are saying and I would normally agree, given your Halo 3 example.</p>
</blockquote><p>Like I said, it's been awhile since I've had to share content like that before, so things  may have changed. But I do remember when DRM first started rearing its head and all the confusion it caused folks. </p>
<blockquote><p>The difference here is that the DLC for 360 and for XB1 are NOT the same product. One is a DLC for 360, and the other is a DLC for XB1, which means that the product is a different one, the code is a different one, and they will probably end up charging for each one.</p>
</blockquote><p>Right, that's what I said. If he buys the DLC for 360, it ain't following him to XB1, but he MIGHT be able to get the 360 DLC to work on two consoles at once. Maybe. Like I said above. </p>
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We have never, I believe, faced a gaming situation like this one. I think Microsoft and Bungie will pat themselves on the back for letting us take our character from one console to the other.</p>
</blockquote><p>I can't speak to Sony, but I've got a lot of experience with how Microsoft handles its licensing in a corporate environment and the consumer side of that isn't really different. It's all tied to whatever account you use. Pretty simple. </p>
<p>EXCEPT, now we have the current gen of consoles to deal with and it's not exactly apples to apples (though it could be if they really wanted to.)</p>
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So yes, while it is nice that your CHARACTERS can follow you to the next gen, why the DLC doesn't is just money. It's an easy excuse for you to need to buy the same product again. </p>
<blockquote><p>However, I think that will be the end of it. Also, remember that Bungie and Microsoft WANT PEOPLE TO GET NEW CONSOLES. If you keep letting people go back and forth to play with friends in the old system, you are encouraging people NOT to buy the new consoles. </p>
</blockquote><p>True to some extent, however there is more money to be made if they can get people to buy it twice. I'm not sure where to point fingers (the devs, the publishers, the platforms)but to me, none of em are innocent. </p>
<blockquote><p>Like I said, I would usually agree, but I sincerely believe they will make you buy each one for each console. Seems like the pro-business thing to do.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, that's what I said, except I don't think I said it very well I guess.The exception to this is the PS4 and possibly 360, if things have not changed.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lil' Blue will have his own account.  Can I load DLC on both Xboxes with my account?  Will he be able to access it then if he's logged in on one and me on the other?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I see what you are saying and I would normally agree, given your Halo 3 example.</p>
<p>The difference here is that the DLC for 360 and for XB1 are NOT the same product. One is a DLC for 360, and the other is a DLC for XB1, which means that the product is a different one, the code is a different one, and they will probably end up charging for each one.</p>
<p>We have never, I believe, faced a gaming situation like this one. I think Microsoft and Bungie will pat themselves on the back for letting us take our character from one console to the other.</p>
<p>However, I think that will be the end of it. Also, remember that Bungie and Microsoft WANT PEOPLE TO GET NEW CONSOLES. If you keep letting people go back and forth to play with friends in the old system, you are encouraging people NOT to buy the new consoles. </p>
<p>Like I said, I would usually agree, but I sincerely believe they will make you buy each one for each console. Seems like the pro-business thing to do.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know what your expectation was with how DLC was going to work for this game. BF4 would probably be the most recent example to compare it to. </p>
<p>I got some DLC for BF4 on 360, but that DCL doesn't follow me to XB1 because it is a different product, different system. </p>
<p>I've never played a console game where they let you do what you were hoping (if they even exist). Even Rockband 2 made you repurchase the songs from RB1 to play in its library (though the price <em>was</em> deeply discounted).</p>
<p>For folks wanting to play Destiny on three different systems, you all are gonna have to make peace with the fact that you'll have to buy the same content 3 times. </p>
<p>I don't think any of this should have come as a surprise, but that's just me. ::shrugs::</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Revenant1988</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should only need to buy content once on your 360. </p>
<p>If I recall correctly, it works for 360 similar to how it works now on PS4. </p>
<p>Whatever 360 console you download it to first, is the primary console and ANY account on that console can play the content. On the Second console, you should be able to download it again (DRM, it follows you) but in order to use it you must be signed in. </p>
<p>If you were planning to be signed onto both 360s at the same time so lil blue could play, I don't think that works that way. He'll likely need his own account as Destiny is not a game where you can bring guests like in the older games. </p>
<p>I could be wrong on that, but that's what I remember doing for Halo 3 DLC many moons ago for a buddy of mine. I bought the content and signed him onto my primary machine so he could access it, while I downloaded my profile to his console to play.</p>
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