Telling people to shut up never creates a good tone or resolves an ill one. Nor does saying people are deluded or they've been got by the balls, etc. There are always these kinds of threads when a new game is released but there are some good critiques and debates here, so let's try to keep it civil, instead of letting it become an argument between people instead of talking about the game itself.

So let's redouble our efforts as lots of people are passionate and it's easy to be too strongly worded or read words as too strong, if that makes sense. Let's not be every forum ever - let's be better. :)

You are correct of course, which why when I use strong words - particularly on the internet, it is not done lightly.

In short - there is nothing to discuss here. Had this OP been made a week later, I would not have made a post.

For prosperity:

"The Game Begins at Level 20"

No it doesn't! There is NOTHING to do once you play all the strikes and story missions. Everything is a repeat. The game is pretty much over for me.

Unless I am way off and there are other things besides the raid that are new content for high level players, then this is really fucking stupid.

Do as you will.

Unless I am way off

You are way off. :P

re: being got by the balls - That was bad phrasing on my part. I did not intend that as an insult, only as a warning that Activision are going to nickel-and-dime the crap out of their player base, so you'd better be careful.

But I did mean what I said about delusion.

Why do we need to resort to telling people they're deluded because they have a different view or opinion? This does not generate good discussion - it generates heated words and kneejerk reactions.

Debate the game, not the people.

But I did mean what I said about delusion.

So let's redouble our efforts as lots of people are passionate and it's easy to be too strongly worded or read words as too strong, if that makes sense. Let's not be every forum ever - let's be better. :)

EDIT: words.

Cody - you are a gosh darned troll. Its been 1 Day, 14 Hours since Destiny launched. ONE DAY! Since you have been posting here - very obviously - for quite sometime, you already know that there is more in the pipe. Places that are still locked off. Things not yet seen.

Why is it locked off? All it does is create frustration. We should be able to move on to new challenges when we finish the current ones.

You reached level 20 in under 24, and you think the time and effort to get to level 25 will be "miserable" ?

This very well could be true. Because you can't go from 20->25 linearly like you can from 1->20. Getting past 20 isn't about accumulating XP, which is predictable, but rather relies on getting the correct gear with the +Light stat, which heavily relies on our lord and savior, RNG (aka, the loot drop mechanics)

It's quite natural that if you're having fun, you want to convince others to have fun too. But if you're having a shitty time playing Destiny, it is NOT natural to try and convince others to have a shitty time too. So maybe you accept that "misery loves company", but in that case you always probably feel like telling those people to "shutup" is okay as well :)

Feel free to state your opinion and game review and say negative things, but then please smile, wave, and leave. Constructive criticism is fine, but that's not the way some of these posts by the glass-almost-empty people feel. They are just seething with negativity and people are getting irate when others don't see Destiny as being as bad as they do.

When you reach the point where I am, and you actually see how you have to get to level 25, and see how long it will take, it's miserable.

You reached level 20 in under 24, and you think the time and effort to get to level 25 will be "miserable" ? I'm okay with you having a negative opinion of destiny, but can you at least admit to yourself that you're not the average gamer, but are instead of the fringe? Most players won't get to level 20 in 24 hours, and the ones that do won't desire to beat everything in the 24 hours after that.

So what do you post?

No it doesn't! There is NOTHING to do once you play all the strikes and story missions. Everything is a repeat. The game is pretty much over for me.

Then I have bad news Cody - if you in your self imposed infinite wisdom really feel that in one day you can hyperbole up a post into fact, then perhaps Destiny is not for you. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Seriously dude. Chill. :/

No it doesn't! There is NOTHING to do once you play all the strikes and story missions. Everything is a repeat. The game is pretty much over for me.

Unless I am way off and there are other things besides the raid that are new content for high level players, then this is really fucking stupid.

So when IGN recently quoted Luke Smith as saying that "after level 20 there are a bunch of strikes that become available to you," that was just wrong?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07/30/destiny-the-endgame-is-only-the-beginning-ign-first

Yes it's wrong. There are no new strikes. What becomes available is a playlist that randomly puts you in a level 20 strike. It's just all the ones you already did, with enemies at level 20. If actual new strikes opened up that would be great.