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dogcow — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:46:55 +0000

PS4? I need to work on the Thorn Crucible bounty too...

One evening after completing a raid the 6 of us dropped in on some matchmaking & I made some amazing progress on that with my shotgun (The Comedian) and rocket launcher (Truth). I'd suggest getting a group together with some people who know what they're doing in the crucible.

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General Vagueness — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:10:57 +0000

I shouldn't have said "for good or ill"; it was frustrating at the time, and maybe the difficulty should be bumped down or things should be adjusted so doing the weekly solo is more doable, but it feels good to have taken on that challenge and come through, and gotten this hand cannon-- and indeed this story-- because of it.

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iconicbanana — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:51:38 +0000

Don't know if anybody's posted this dude's stuff, but this Last Word Replica belongs in this thread: http://www.sloanhood.blogspot.se/

via r/destinythegame.

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General Vagueness — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:13:27 +0000

For good or ill, I have a story to go with it, like Bungie seems to want (a lot).
http://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/1/4611686018430224533/2305843009219629106#context=strike§ion=none
What you're seeing there is, well it's not as much as I was expecting, but that refers to the game that earned me it.
I was catching up on Twitter and I saw Bungie mention Xur had this, and after a cursory look over it I decided even though it had less impact than my current hand cannon, Nifty Biscuit, which itself was lower than some I'd seen and not kept, it would probably make up for it, if not all the time then at least against very high-level enemies (because that's what attack is for, right? still waiting on that manual), and it could be fun, which is after all the point of a game. I thought I'd have enough strange coins, but it turned out I needed three more. The weekly heroic strike, of course, is the only guaranteed source of strange coins. The bottom tier pays out a guaranteed three strange coins for beating it, and I hadn't gotten around to attempting it this week. I'd been unable to get through the weekly alone before but last week I'd finally managed it and my gear was upgraded to the next level this time, which also meant higher defense, so I figured it was just a matter of time.
That brings me back to that game.
I started late in the afternoon, later than I had intended to. I stopped to get food, use the bathroom, and do other things, and made sure I was back in time to have the game not boot me. I ate dinner mostly a few bites at a time between encounters. I spent at least half the time in that game on the final boss fight.
I threw everything I had at Aksor, and that greedy pig, that glutton for punishment, asked for more, and that sly fox teleported all over the place, and that weaselly coward had wave after wave after wave of Shanks come in, a bunch of servitors, eventually invisible guys and snipers-- those snipers are fucking something else, I could've sworn even the Jackal snipers in Halo 2 on Legendary weren't as rapid-fire as them, or at least not this one that ended one of my most promising attempts, not to mention they kept getting me from two or even three sides at once. I tried every single primary weapon I had to no avail-- they didn't seem to help, and some really seemed to do worse, so I eventually went back to Nifty Biscuit-- which at least left me more confident than ever that hand cannons are the way to go, at least for me. A big part of it was all the Shanks, the ability to one-shot them was just so helpful, my scout rifle could do it but it didn't feel as smooth or as good as my hand cannon, and it didn't do as much damage, despite being legendary (The Calling, if you're curious) and having a damage upgrade while my hand cannon was only a rare.
I called for backup, first one person and then another. By this point I was several hundred kills in and I had already lost track of how many times I'd tried the boss fight. I didn't like the admission I couldn't do it myself, but I liked the admission I couldn't do it at all even less, and I didn't know if I would be able to get the coins any other way. I waited on responses, I waited for a "maybe" to get back to me, the maybe was a no but I prodded and said it would only be ten to fifteen minutes and convinced him, and meanwhile I kept pushing and tried switching my machine gun for a rocket launcher, which didn't seem to make a difference. Eventually I got someone to help me and after a few more tries we got farther and I was reminded it doesn't stop at invisible guys (who I'd gotten good about dispatching with my shotgun) and snipers (who I'd gotten somewhat better about hiding from and taking potshots at-- do they really need to be yellow-bar?). At the very end a Skiff shows off and drops off captains-- I thought it was one with some support, but I saw another, and another-- a whole bunch of 'em! It's madness, I tell you, with all the other stuff going on, I don't know how I could've dealt with them and kept putting the hurt on the boss. I believe the attempt after we first got that far was when we finally cracked it.
That brings me back to those game stats again. In that game I logged well over a thousand kills and effectively a quarter of a day (about five minutes short of eight hours), and it was actually most of an hour into the next day.
I brought us back to the Tower and of course one of the engrams I picked up turned into a strange coin. It was just the one, so it wouldn't have really mattered one way or the other, but it was a little reminder that yes, RNGsus and Rahool are laughing at my pain. (As a side note, maybe it's my awful memory, but I'm kind of shocked I haven't seen anyone point out engrams and weapon drops are dodecahedrons, AKA D12-- it's like they're telling us, "No, seriously, the dice hate you". This is some Old Testament style RPG shenanigans. Did my dad break some ancient taboo years ago when he played D&D?)
I went to Xur, I looked things over again, and I bought the gun.
The size was unexpected, and I think it's fitting. The little spin is nice. The gold looks really good in third-person but I feel it should be shinier and, well, gold-er in first-person. The comment(s) from a while back about how it doesn't mechanically and visually work right kind of bother me, but that doesn't ruin it for me, and I might have been bothered anyway because I was aware of how single-action and double-action work. (Another side note, am I seeing things or does your Guardian pull the trigger on hand cannons with their thumb? Is that common?) I tested it on the riffraff in Old Russia along with those anomalously strong Hive near the patrol spawn that night in comparison to Nifty Biscuit, and since then I've also used it on the Moon and in a strike, and the damage does indeed leave something to be desired, but it's not significantly below my previous status quo, and there are damage upgrades for attack, and a different kind of damage upgrade-- I'm curious about that and I'll wait to see what it does, because it doesn't show stat changes on hover like most do. I'll see how it goes in the long run, but I can say it's not awful and it's not bad, and even if it was bad, after this, I think I'll be holding onto it for a nice long while, and that's all right with me.

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Oholiab — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 02:56:28 +0000

Ok, I'm just jealous because I'm still trying to to earn my first exotic weapon!

Sigh... I've spent more time in the Crucible than I ever wanted, proving game after game how pathetic a player I am. Sure hope Thorn is worth it!

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unoudid — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 23:54:26 +0000

Whatevs, I'm still the only one walking around with a fully upgraded Universal Remote. :)

Maybe.

The universal remote was the first exotic I received and I have barely even upgraded it :) that was close to 15 exotics ago lol

It's got plenty of stopping power. (reply)

Penthesilean — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:32:12 +0000

See? Brett was putting on his pants, and I stopped him.

Legendary sparrows are THE BOMB. (reply)

Korny — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:11:22 +0000

So fast. So incredibly fast.

No, seriously, if you hold the turbo boost too long, they explode...
I've been killed by my own exploding sparrow before...

But watching it go from blue to purple to red is so entrancing...

So you do care... (reply)

Korny — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 10:09:54 +0000

- No text -

I Could Care Less. (reply)

Morpheus — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:03:39 +0000

I care so little about the Last Word, I'm flaccid. Quote Bateman, "I'm inverted."

I've got my almighty Thorn. Oh, sweet glory.....mmmmmm...now that's a weapon!

Gosh I'm so glad I earned it * (reply)

stabbim — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 08:48:56 +0000

Whatevs, I'm still the only one walking around with a fully upgraded Universal Remote. :)

Maybe.

So, can anyone comment on its stopping power? (reply)

Cody Miller — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:35:51 +0000

I swear I've gotten a few two shot kills with Thorn now that I've got the poison upgrade. It seems a bit spotty though and it's the poison that kills them not the bullet. I think you might have to get the head shots in very quickly to maximize the poison damage to their health. It might even matter how they speced their build as it feels to me that I'm getting the kill with the last bit of the poison...

Oh right. I forgot about Thorn. Yes, it can two shot kill with headshots followed by the poison.

I'm wondering if it's really worth an exotic slot. (reply)

Ragashingo — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:21:06 +0000

Yep. I'm starting to pile up Exotics. Bad Juju, Thorn, The Last Word, Plan C, Patience and Time, Invective, Thunderlord... Makes it hard to upgrade any one exotic too since I always want to use another one! :p

I'm wondering if it's really worth an exotic slot. (reply)

Mattchoo — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:56:45 +0000

ALl about play style, mood, and probably map :)

Sometimes opposition decisions play a factor too

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Monochron — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:55:16 +0000

Do I put away my Gjallahorn for this?

Xur has The Last Word. (reply)

Mattchoo — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:54:10 +0000

I am so excited about this.

I have a lot of Destiny play time (XB1), and this was the one weapon I still REALLY REALLY was looking forward to getting. I can't check b.net from work and the APP is no longer showing me my playtime, but I think I'm right at 6.5 days or so. I think that is quite a bit... right?

I've gotten ok RNG so far in the game, but hadn't yet rolled the right dice for this one and it was driving me crazy. It really was the one gun I wanted badly since I heard it on the Podcast back in 2013.

Do I see/agree with the feedback that either Xur needs to sell these things at much higher prices OR that he sells hard bounties to complete for rights to turn in for his weapons table? Yes.

But do I think that the people that had the gun that are now upset have a justified reason? No. Everyone knows what his loot table is. They should have been complaining long long before. Also, "technically" obtaining strange coins from the weekly is "earning" still. But again, I fully support Xur selling hard new exotic weapon bounties (only available thru him) that you complete to turn into him for the weapon. That sounds like a really really cool way to grow Destiny into the supremely special game we want it to be.

This morning felt like Christmas as a 7 year old. I texted my founding clan-mate at 6 AM CST and then quickly shot an email off to everyone else. Cool moment outside of Destiny

Sorry if my wording is incoherent today... I'm not thinking well from not enough sleep, another stressful work week, and jittery from too much coffee - which I only recently started drinking coffee this year as a result of Destiny.

So, can anyone comment on its stopping power? (reply)

SonofMacPhisto — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:05:21 +0000

My The Devil You Know and Thorn can kill with two head shots in the Crucible. Tell me about The Last Word. How many head shots are needed before and after the upgrade? How many body shots are needed to kill? Basically, is it a good gun? :p

No they can't. Three shots. If at least one is a headshot. Only Hawkmoon can 2 shot.

Last Word Takes four if one is a headshot, 3 if ALL are headshots. The range is not great, but you can rapidly fire from the hip to get body shots. It's just as good, but you need to play very very differently.

Get those stability upgrades ASAP.

In my experience, the real value of the Last Word is flexibility. Mid to long range? Stabilty upgrade keeps your shots on target. Up close? BAM BAM BAM hipfire time.

So, can anyone comment on its stopping power? (reply)

Ragashingo — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:51:08 +0000

I swear I've gotten a few two shot kills with Thorn now that I've got the poison upgrade. It seems a bit spotty though and it's the poison that kills them not the bullet. I think you might have to get the head shots in very quickly to maximize the poison damage to their health. It might even matter how they speced their build as it feels to me that I'm getting the kill with the last bit of the poison...

Where's Defend The House when you need them?

fix'd (reply)

SonofMacPhisto — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:40:29 +0000

Vanguard Murder-fare.

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CaneCutter — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:35:55 +0000

So who should use hawkmoon and who should use the last word between my hunter and my warlock?

Hunter should use Last Word with Gunslinger's Trance and Chain of Woe. Those reduce the downsides of more reloads and less accuracy.

I wish Hawkmoon wasn't exclusive for so long. That's a beautiful weapon and I hear it packs a huge punch.

I don't have the Last Word and probably won't be able to buy it from Xur this weekend, but yeah, the Hawkmoon is wonderful. It's my favorite so far. It routinely does 1500 damage on headshots and I think I have one or two more damage upgrades to go.

- CC

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It's got plenty of stopping power. (reply)

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So, can anyone comment on its stopping power? (reply)

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I'm wondering if it's really worth an exotic slot. (reply)

I'm wondering if it's really worth an exotic slot. (reply)

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So, can anyone comment on its stopping power? (reply)

So, can anyone comment on its stopping power? (reply)

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