


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
<channel>
<title>DBO Forums - I&#039;m a fan of the book!</title>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/</link>
<description>Bungie.Org talks Destiny</description>
<language>en</language>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not.  Mine is, however. :)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7955</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7955</guid>
<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>SonofMacPhisto</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was excited to meet him when that picture was taken; I simply wanted to make it clear that I'd be less excited to meet him now. I find it's easier to just jokingly call him a &quot;crazy person&quot; and continue enjoying Ender's Game than let myself get upset over certain opinions he holds.</p>
</blockquote><p>I respect that greatly. I'm not a big fan of his, but it's just so frustrating how everything the guy does draws backlash because of his opinions.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I operate the same way. If I didn't, I wouldn't be able to watch the movie because it stars Harrison Ford.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7950</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7950</guid>
<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 04:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd love to hear it as well. Not sure if my E-mail is tied to my profile, though.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7949</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7949</guid>
<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>Thanks (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All part of the service, sir!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7902</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7902</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 23:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>SonofMacPhisto</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>Thanks (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Though this thread, and probably this forum, ain't quite the place for it. Email me, if you want.</p>
</blockquote><p>Just wanted to say that I appreciate your discretion. :)</p>
<p>(You too, SonofMacPhisto.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7881</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7881</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 05:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ncsuDuncan</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><br />
Yup. Definitely a crazy person. /sarcasm</p>
</blockquote><p>Sorry, hope I didn't offend. Card was actually very pleasant in person (and even talked excitedly about the difficulties of making Ender's Game into a movie - five years ago!)</p>
<p>I was excited to meet him when that picture was taken; I simply wanted to make it clear that I'd be less excited to meet him now. I find it's easier to just jokingly call him a &quot;crazy person&quot; and continue enjoying Ender's Game than let myself get upset over certain opinions he holds.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7880</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7880</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 05:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ncsuDuncan</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I care; Elaborate away (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though this thread, and probably this forum, ain't quite the place for it. Email me, if you want.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7879</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7879</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mr Daax</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having that been the first thing I've ever read from the man, there's a lot of truth within, but it's lacking significant empathy in a few spots.  If anyone cared, I'd love to elaborate off the board.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7878</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7878</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>SonofMacPhisto</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Speaking of foolish optimism ...</em></p>
<p><em>There is only a finite amount of oil in the world.</em></p>
<p><em>Everybody knows this.</em></p>
<p><em>Someday, we'll run out.</em></p>
<p><em>It will be gone.</em></p>
<p><em>Meanwhile, our insatiable thirst for oil -- which we burn -- has put enormous sums of money into the hands of fanatics who hate us and everything we stand for, and who use that oil money to fund the terrorists who murder Jews and Americans wherever they can.</em></p>
<p><em>We can't burn oil forever.</em></p>
<p><em>And it's bad strategy to base our economy on cheap oil when we have to buy at least some of it from our enemies.</em></p>
<p><em>Optimists tell us that the free market will eventually deal with the problem. Their theory is that as oil gets harder to extract cheaply, the price will go up; then other forms of energy will become economically attractive and we'll switch over to them.</em></p>
<p><em>Therefore, they say, government should stay out of the business of trying to limit the use of oil or encourage alternate energy sources.</em></p>
<p><em>Here's why their optimism is nothing short of suicidal.</em></p>
<p><em>First, there's no guarantee that without intense government-funded research and financial incentives now, the new energy sources will be available in quantities large enough to replace oil when it does run out.</em></p>
<p><em>In other words, if we wait until it's an emergency, our economy could easily crash and burn for lack of energy sources sufficient to drive it.</em></p>
<p><em>It's easy to supply energy for an economy that's only a tenth the size of the world's economy today. The question is, how many people will die in the resulting chaos and famine, before a new free-market equilibrium is established?</em></p>
<p><em>Second, how stupid do we have to be to wait until we run out of oil before acting to prevent its waste as a fuel? Petroleum is a vital source of plastics. We could use it for that purpose for hundreds of generations -- if we didn't burn any more of it. But if we wait till we've burned all the cheap petroleum, it won't be just fuel that we have to replace.</em></p>
<p><em>Third, market forces don't do anything for our national defense, our national security. We had a clear warning back in the 1970s with the first oil embargo. What if terrorism in the Middle East specifically targets all oil exports, from many countries?</em></p>
<p><em>And even if they keep the oil flowing, why are we pumping money into the pockets of militant extremists who want to destroy us? Why are we subsidizing our enemies, when instead we could be subsidizing the research that might set us free from our addiction to oil?</em></p>
<p><em>You notice that I haven't said anything about polluting the environment. Because this is not an environmental issue.</em></p>
<p><em>In the long run, it's an issue of whether we wish to provide for our children the same kind of prosperity that we've luxuriated in as a nation since World War II.</em></p>
<p><em>It is foolish optimism bordering on criminal neglect that we continue to think that our future will be all right as long as we find new ways to extract oil from proven reserves.</em></p>
<p><em>Instead of extracting it, we ought to be preserving it.</em></p>
<p><em>Congress ought to be giving incentives and then creating mandates that require hybrid vehicles to predominate within the next five years.</em></p>
<p><em>Within the next fifteen years, we must move beyond hybrids to means of transportation that don't burn oil at all.</em></p>
<p><em>Within thirty years, we must handle our transportation needs without burning anything at all.</em></p>
<p><em>I made the numbers up. Maybe where I said five years, it should be ten.</em></p>
<p><em>Then again, maybe where I said thirty years, we'll find ourselves wishing that somebody had insisted on fifteen.</em></p>
<p><em>Predicting the exact moment when our dependence on petroleum will destroy us is pointless.</em></p>
<p><em>What is certain is this: We will run out of oil that is cheap enough to burn. We don't know when, but we do know it will happen.</em></p>
<p><em>And on that day, our children will curse their forebears who burned this precious resource, and therefore their future, just because they didn't want the government to interfere with the free market, or some other such nonsense.</em></p>
<p><em>The government interferes with the free market constantly. By its very existence, government distorts the market. So let's turn that distortion to our benefit. Let's enforce a savings program. But instead of putting money in the bank, let's put oil there.</em></p>
<p><em>Oil in the bank ... so our children and grandchildren for a hundred generations can slowly draw it out to build with it instead of burn it.</em></p>
<p><em>Oil in the bank ... so we'll be free of the threat of fanatics who seek to murder their enemies -- including us -- with weapons paid for at our gas pumps.</em></p>
<p><em>Do you want to know who funded Osama bin Laden? We did. And we continue to do it every time we fill up.</em></p>
<p><em>You don't have to be an environmental fanatic to demand that we control our greed for oil.</em></p>
<p><em>In fact, you have to be six kinds of dumb not to insist on it.</em></p>
<p><em>But ... foresight just isn't the American way. We always seem to wait until our own house is burning before we notice there's a wildfire.</em></p>
<p><em>Oh, it won't reach us here, we tell ourselves. We'll be safe.</em></p>
<p><em>Talk about foolish optimism.</em></p>
<p><em>-Orson Scott Card</em></p>
</blockquote><p>Yup. Definitely a crazy person. /sarcasm</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7877</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7877</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 03:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>I&#039;m a fan of the book! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even met the author! He signed my extremely worn out copy of Ender's Game.</p>
<p><a rel="thumbnail" href="http://i.imgur.com/CMMT5cf.jpg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/CMMT5cf.jpg" class="thumbnail" alt="[image]" /></a></p>
<p>(This was about five years ago, long before I found out he was a crazy person. I still like his Ender books, I just ignore anything he does or says outside of that.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7592</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7592</guid>
<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 02:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ncsuDuncan</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>Major book spoilers in here (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To that point, isn't the final scene of that trailer (Zapping the entire homeworld) kind of a massive super huge frigging spoiler?  If they want to pace discovery, giving up a huge part of the ending doesn't seem like a good idea.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, I was a bit surprised to see that. Although it's so brief that without context, those who haven't read the books probably won't latch onto exactly what they're seeing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7573</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7573</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 20:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Beorn</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>*OT* Any Ender&#039;s Game fans? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll go ahead and be that guy and admit I'm not planning to see it because of Card's political views. When I re-examined some of what I liked about the book in the light of Cards general awfulness, and after growing up some, I found that it didn't resonate nearly as strongly for me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7571</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7571</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>electricpirate</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>Major book spoilers in here (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I think &quot;cautiously exited&quot; is a nice way to put it. Regarding book details in the trailer, I hope they stick to this approach and don't give too much away before the movie's out. Part of the magic of the story, as I recall (it's been 13 years), is that you're learning about the story as Ender learns about it. I find it saddening when trailers give away too much plot.</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p><br />
The trailer actually seemed to tell a different story (sort of the OPPOSITE story) than the book - so maybe they ARE going to do a good job of selling it as you watch.</p>
</blockquote><p>To that point, isn't the final scene of that trailer (Zapping the entire homeworld) kind of a massive super huge frigging spoiler?  If they want to pace discovery, giving up a huge part of the ending doesn't seem like a good idea.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7570</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7570</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>electricpirate</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>What version is that from? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I realize that I've only ever seen the director's cut. Which I know is better, but I don't know what most of the differences are, other than the whole unicorn symbology.</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p><br />
The big difference, for me at least, was that the original had narration from Ford's character. Which I thought was unnecessary.</p>
<p>Also everyone should read the book,<em> Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?</em>. Same characters, similar setting, same themes.... but completely different story essentially. And yet they both capture the same big ideas from different directions. Dick's got a bit more paranoia, of course. :)</p>
</blockquote><p>I actually just read <em>Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?</em> and was surprised at both the close similarities and glaring differences.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7566</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7566</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 18:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Beorn</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>What version is that from? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I realize that I've only ever seen the director's cut. Which I know is better, but I don't know what most of the differences are, other than the whole unicorn symbology.</p>
</blockquote><p>The big difference, for me at least, was that the original had narration from Ford's character. Which I thought was unnecessary.</p>
<p>Also everyone should read the book,<em> Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?</em>. Same characters, similar setting, same themes.... but completely different story essentially. And yet they both capture the same big ideas from different directions. Dick's got a bit more paranoia, of course. :)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7564</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7564</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Leviathan</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>Battle Room FTW (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I've always wanted to ask Halo fans this. If you guys could spend one day being chased by Marines in the forest during Spartan training or an hour in the Battle Room, which would you choose? Can't think of anything that beats the mind shattering awesomeness that is zero-g acrobatic combat.</p>
</blockquote><p>After reading Ender's Game in high school (<em>c</em>. 1998), a buddy and I made a Marathon Infinity mod to simulate the Battle Room. We pushed the engine about as far as we could to get low/zero-G (I don't remember if this actually worked out or not), and changed the weapons and enemies with Anvil. All the combatants were Vac Bobs, and there were obstacles you'd have to maneuver around. Was pretty hard to beat, as I remember, but we had SO much fun making it!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7562</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7562</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Beorn</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>Battle Room no question (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7560</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7560</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mattchoo</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>*OT* Any Ender&#039;s Game fans? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!!!!</p>
<p><br />
They better get the ending correct.  I don't want to spoil anything for those that didn't read the book, but the book ending makes the reader really think deep in a vareity of ways.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7558</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7558</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mattchoo</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>What version is that from? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Original theatrical release. I know because I was there. Still thought it was a great movie.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7555</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7555</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
</item>
<item>
<title>What version is that from? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that I've only ever seen the director's cut. Which I know is better, but I don't know what most of the differences are, other than the whole unicorn symbology.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
<link>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7553</link>
<guid>https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7553</guid>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 15:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Postmortem</dc:creator>
</item>
</channel>
</rss>
