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The Bungie Vs Marty saga continues (Destiny)

by Revenant1988 ⌂ @, How do I forum?, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 13:47 (75 days ago)

Surprised no one has posted about this yet (If I missed it, ignore me). ​

Former Destiny Composer ordered to pay $100k


Looks like a judge ruled in Bungie's favor against Marty and use of content from their previous lawsuit.

Really unfortunate and sad to see things going this way. As a fan, I enjoy seeing the peeks behind the curtain but sometimes that juice isn't worth the squeeze.

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The Bungie Vs Marty saga continues

by cheapLEY @, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:37 (75 days ago) @ Revenant1988

This is fucking silly. Right or wrong, the terms of the last lawsuit was him no longer having Destiny music in any capacity. Then he just goes and uploads it to youtube?

Gotta be honest, he seems like a fucking moron.

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The Bungie Vs Marty saga continues

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 17:30 (75 days ago) @ cheapLEY

This is fucking silly. Right or wrong, the terms of the last lawsuit was him no longer having Destiny music in any capacity. Then he just goes and uploads it to youtube?

Gotta be honest, he seems like a fucking moron.

You forgot the part where he was uploading them to Bandcamp for money.
It's a shame that it's come to this, but stupid egos need to be knocked down a peg or two every once in a while, and I'm here for it.

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The Bungie Vs Marty saga continues

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 18:30 (75 days ago) @ cheapLEY

This is fucking silly. Right or wrong, the terms of the last lawsuit was him no longer having Destiny music in any capacity. Then he just goes and uploads it to youtube?

Gotta be honest, he seems like a fucking moron.

The proper play would have been just to sit back and say nothing after the MotS leaks. His music was out there being heard, and everyone was still on his side.

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This saddens me

by Robot Chickens, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 16:28 (75 days ago) @ Revenant1988

The initial agreement required that Marty turn over those assets and he clearly didn't. That's on him. If he hadn't been selling these on band camp, it may be slightly more gray, but he brazenly used these assets for profit.

On the other hand, it's a bit hard at this point to see the economic/intellectual property damage as significant on this issue. Bungie is largely giving away the music for free by hosting it on youtube and the official releases probably aren't impacted by his actions. The parts of the music that were going to be used in the composition of game tracks has pretty much already been incorporated, so... what's the big deal.

As a person who composes music occasionally, I can understand how hard it would be to mentally separate a final product from a work in progress and not want to retain some sense if ownership over the pieces that never were officially used. Ideas come and go through life and parts get used and parts get cut and it would be tempting to say "this published part is theirs, while this unpublished part is mine. After all, it's been in my head for 10 years and I just got around to using portions." I know that's not how the law treats it, but that's where my sympathies lead me.

I wish that, legal fees aside, they would all just let this go, move on and live their lives.

This saddens me

by EffortlessFury @, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 16:53 (75 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

The initial agreement required that Marty turn over those assets and he clearly didn't. That's on him. If he hadn't been selling these on band camp, it may be slightly more gray, but he brazenly used these assets for profit.

On the other hand, it's a bit hard at this point to see the economic/intellectual property damage as significant on this issue. Bungie is largely giving away the music for free by hosting it on youtube and the official releases probably aren't impacted by his actions. The parts of the music that were going to be used in the composition of game tracks has pretty much already been incorporated, so... what's the big deal.

As a person who composes music occasionally, I can understand how hard it would be to mentally separate a final product from a work in progress and not want to retain some sense if ownership over the pieces that never were officially used. Ideas come and go through life and parts get used and parts get cut and it would be tempting to say "this published part is theirs, while this unpublished part is mine. After all, it's been in my head for 10 years and I just got around to using portions." I know that's not how the law treats it, but that's where my sympathies lead me.

I wish that, legal fees aside, they would all just let this go, move on and live their lives.

The courts determined he partly culpable in the prior court case and this was one of the stipulations of how it resolved. To argue that it should just be let go is to say that one is not beholden to the conditions imposed for their wrongdoings.

He composed the music while under employment, thus unfortunately it's not his. I get it, I feel for him, but it's the result of his own actions that it came to this.

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This saddens me

by Robot Chickens, Thursday, September 16, 2021, 17:15 (75 days ago) @ EffortlessFury

The initial agreement required that Marty turn over those assets and he clearly didn't. That's on him. If he hadn't been selling these on band camp, it may be slightly more gray, but he brazenly used these assets for profit.

On the other hand, it's a bit hard at this point to see the economic/intellectual property damage as significant on this issue. Bungie is largely giving away the music for free by hosting it on youtube and the official releases probably aren't impacted by his actions. The parts of the music that were going to be used in the composition of game tracks has pretty much already been incorporated, so... what's the big deal.

As a person who composes music occasionally, I can understand how hard it would be to mentally separate a final product from a work in progress and not want to retain some sense if ownership over the pieces that never were officially used. Ideas come and go through life and parts get used and parts get cut and it would be tempting to say "this published part is theirs, while this unpublished part is mine. After all, it's been in my head for 10 years and I just got around to using portions." I know that's not how the law treats it, but that's where my sympathies lead me.

I wish that, legal fees aside, they would all just let this go, move on and live their lives.


The courts determined he partly culpable in the prior court case and this was one of the stipulations of how it resolved. To argue that it should just be let go is to say that one is not beholden to the conditions imposed for their wrongdoings.

I get it. In a strictly legal sense, this is cut and dry. I just wish there were other mechanisms in their lives with which to resolve these disputes- especially considering that the damage is largely done and I'm not sure how this adds anything to the lives of either party going forward.

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This saddens me

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:59 (74 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

The initial agreement required that Marty turn over those assets and he clearly didn't. That's on him. If he hadn't been selling these on band camp, it may be slightly more gray, but he brazenly used these assets for profit.

On the other hand, it's a bit hard at this point to see the economic/intellectual property damage as significant on this issue. Bungie is largely giving away the music for free by hosting it on youtube and the official releases probably aren't impacted by his actions. The parts of the music that were going to be used in the composition of game tracks has pretty much already been incorporated, so... what's the big deal.

As a person who composes music occasionally, I can understand how hard it would be to mentally separate a final product from a work in progress and not want to retain some sense if ownership over the pieces that never were officially used. Ideas come and go through life and parts get used and parts get cut and it would be tempting to say "this published part is theirs, while this unpublished part is mine. After all, it's been in my head for 10 years and I just got around to using portions." I know that's not how the law treats it, but that's where my sympathies lead me.

I wish that, legal fees aside, they would all just let this go, move on and live their lives.


The courts determined he partly culpable in the prior court case and this was one of the stipulations of how it resolved. To argue that it should just be let go is to say that one is not beholden to the conditions imposed for their wrongdoings.


I get it. In a strictly legal sense, this is cut and dry. I just wish there were other mechanisms in their lives with which to resolve these disputes- especially considering that the damage is largely done and I'm not sure how this adds anything to the lives of either party going forward.

There's plenty of evidence that this is and was always personal. It takes two egos to tango.

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Seriously, Marty?

by Morpheus @, High Charity, Friday, September 17, 2021, 20:21 (74 days ago) @ Revenant1988

You had the win, you had the upper hand, and you had everyone's respect. Why throw all that away?

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