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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is there a way to ignore posts from specific users? </p>
<p>Just wondering.</p>
</blockquote><p>No, the current forum code does not allow it.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2018 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way to ignore posts from specific users? </p>
<p>Just wondering.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not sure what this means. This forum (in its default state, anyway) operates very much like HBO's forum does.</p>
</blockquote><p>referring to the link saying <em>@username</em> next to the post title-- it can only point to one post, and I've seen people get confused at quoting multiple posts</p>
<blockquote><p>I'm glad you're done with it. I agree with you - his post was pretty calculated at baiting you, and was pretty uncalled-for. Not rising to the bait is healthy, though.</p>
</blockquote><p>well I did reply first, otherwise I'd go off on one (I still got in another dig too, which really isn't necessary for anyone that knows both parties)</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>remember this forum guideline?</p>
<p>&quot;Be nice, damn it!&quot;</p>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p><br />
I'm confused, what part of what I said goes against that?</p>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>thank you for reminding everyone you're a dick</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147204" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>I'll direct you to the Cody Miller Memorial School for the Opinion Challenged.</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147207" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>you can fuck off</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147220" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>the fuck are you even saying?</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147216" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>and frankly everyone talking about a slippery slope can fuck right off</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147199" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<p>I wish these were all directed at the same person; at least then I could pass this off as &quot;oh, he's just mad at X&quot;</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p><br />
that's valid, but he replied to the post where I was saying a lot of other stuff, that's why I was confused<br />
I'm not really speaking differently from how I used to, and if it wasn't for the hard links (term?) in this forum that would confuse people it would've only been one or two posts</p>
</blockquote><p>Not sure what this means. This forum (in its default state, anyway) operates very much like HBO's forum does.</p>
<blockquote><p>edit: I noticed most of what you quoted has &quot;<span class="spoilertext">fuck</span>&quot; in it, you didn't think I was overstepping lines and getting overly mad just because of the swearing, did you? that's nothing new for me or the forum</p>
</blockquote><p>Swearing is not off-limits here; I posted at least twice last week with text that included swearing. It's the directed-at-someone anger that comes with it that's a problem. </p>
<blockquote><p>oh and so as not to make more posts to clutter things:<br />
Kermit, thank you, your support and opposition are both noted and appreciated</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><p>korny, you're like Anakin Skywalker with that last post (I'll leave the interpretation to the reader) and you're now trying to stir up shit further, and I'm done with it</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm glad you're done with it. I agree with you - his post was pretty calculated at baiting you, and was pretty uncalled-for. Not rising to the bait is healthy, though.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 01:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree with several of your points but... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>remember this forum guideline?</p>
<p>&quot;Be nice, damn it!&quot;</p>
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I'm confused, what part of what I said goes against that?</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>thank you for reminding everyone you're a dick</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147204" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>I'll direct you to the Cody Miller Memorial School for the Opinion Challenged.</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147207" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>you can fuck off</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147220" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>the fuck are you even saying?</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147216" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>and frankly everyone talking about a slippery slope can fuck right off</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147199" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<p>I wish these were all directed at the same person; at least then I could pass this off as &quot;oh, he's just mad at X&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p>that's valid, but he replied to the post where I was saying a lot of other stuff, that's why I was confused<br />
I'm not really speaking differently from how I used to, and if it wasn't for the hard links (term?) in this forum that would confuse people it would've only been one or two posts<br />
I'm not mad at anyone (save for one person for a while earlier for acting superior), I'm just being snarky, I'm sorry if it's coming off as mad<br />
but yes, it does have more impact all put together like that, and yes, I could've been more measured, although I will stand by the points made in every post linked<br />
edit: I noticed most of what you quoted has &quot;<span class="spoilertext">fuck</span>&quot; in it, you didn't think I was overstepping lines and getting overly mad just because of the swearing, did you? that's nothing new for me or the forum</p>
<p>oh and so as not to make more posts to clutter things:<br />
Kermit, thank you, your support and opposition are both noted and appreciated<br />
korny, you're like Anakin Skywalker with that last post (I'll leave the interpretation to the reader) and you're now trying to stir up shit further, and I'm done with it</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 01:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree with several of your points but... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>remember this forum guideline?</p>
<p>&quot;Be nice, damn it!&quot;</p>
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I'm confused, what part of what I said goes against that?</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><p>thank you for reminding everyone you're a dick</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147204" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>I'll direct you to the Cody Miller Memorial School for the Opinion Challenged.</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147207" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>you can fuck off</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147220" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>the fuck are you even saying?</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147216" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>and frankly everyone talking about a slippery slope can fuck right off</p>
</blockquote><p> (<a href="index.php?id=147199" class="internal">here</a>)</p>
<p>I wish these were all directed at the same person; at least then I could pass this off as &quot;oh, he's just mad at X&quot;</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 01:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>Do me a favor, GV... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...keep your personal animosity towards Korny off the forum, okay?</p>
</blockquote><p>this isn't about that, maybe that leaked a bit but he's (badly) trying to strongarm things</p>
<blockquote><p>You jumped into this (relatively civil) thread</p>
</blockquote><p>except for his posts, yes</p>
<blockquote><p>many days after it had died away,</p>
</blockquote><p>hi I'm Vagueness, have we met?<br />
but seriously, I just found out about this thread, and like I said, the same kind of thing that's been pushing you away pushed me away, that's why I'm not here on a regular basis (and the days when I'd read every post stopped even before that)</p>
<blockquote><p>and filled it full of personal attacks.</p>
</blockquote><p>most of what I posted wasn't that</p>
<blockquote><p>That's completely unnecessary - it adds nothing constructive to the conversation, and starts fights that will drag on for days. </p>
</blockquote><p>I do sincerely apologize if that happens, but you should know that usually I don't get any replies at the end of a thread<br />
I do sincerely apologize for not taking a little bit more time to separate personal feelings and what's good for the forum</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to contribute suggestions, that's fine - but repeating what's already been said (in much ruder terms, to boot) is unhelpful.</p>
</blockquote><p>I suggest keeping the &quot;Criticism&quot; category and maybe adding a few more to make things more clear for everyone and cut down on fears of &quot;censorship&quot; and slippery slopes and bans<br />
I have other suggestions but I've told you those before</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 00:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree with several of your points but... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>remember this forum guideline?</p>
<p>&quot;Be nice, damn it!&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm confused, what part of what I said goes against that?</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 00:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Do me a favor, GV... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...keep your personal animosity towards Korny off the forum, okay?</p>
<p>You jumped into this (relatively civil) thread many days after it had died away, and filled it full of personal attacks. That's completely unnecessary - it adds nothing constructive to the conversation, and starts fights that will drag on for days. </p>
<p>If you want to contribute suggestions, that's fine - but repeating what's already been said (in much ruder terms, to boot) is unhelpful.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>remember this forum guideline?</p>
<p>&quot;Be nice, damn it!&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p><br />
You're being pretty negative and toxic in your posts, Vagueness, which is exactly what we're trying to (and have been doing a great job of) avoid on this forum. I'll ask that you not do that.</p>
<p>Please remember that it's okay if you disagree with others, but you don't have to resort to personal attacks on the members of the forum that you don't agree with, as that creates a negative environment that drives people away (we're also working to avoid that), and it doesn't lead to any constructive dialogue.</p>
<p>If you have problems or any displeasure that you wish to share, we now have a &quot;<a href="https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?mode=index&amp;category=11">Criticism</a>&quot; category just for that!</p>
<p>As it says before every post on the equally-positive Warframe <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/">Subreddit</a>:<br />
<strong><span style="font-size:large;">Remember to be excellent to each other.</span></strong><br />
&lt;3</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remember this forum guideline?</p>
<p>&quot;Be nice, damn it!&quot;</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hell, bans on a forum are not censorship as long as it's the only forum in existence</p>
</blockquote><p>meant to say &quot;as long as it's NOT the only forum in existence&quot;, 1 minute too late</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<title>Maybe a little confusion here (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Like we were discussing last night, some folks tend to jump the gun rather than addressing the problem or talking with others. The B.org community has always done a fine job of managing itself and shooing away the Spiders who would build cobwebs of toxicity.<br />
the Spiders</p>
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you can fuck off, even if no one else here knows or remembers SESpider I remember your little character assassination to try to drive him away (for the crime of having typos and disagreeing with you)<br />
you are not some heroic crusader, you're not even a truth-teller</p>
<blockquote><p>I would say that the onus is definitely on the community to make the place more welcoming and friendly. As others have noted, people around here don't really engage as much as they did when Halo was good, and that's a bummer. Whether it has to do with Destiny itself, Bungie and their issues, or the people around here, everyone has their reasons. It just surprises me how many people complain about people complaining, without contributing any of the nice things that they want. That's a factor that drives people away as well, I'd wager.<br />
I want to see more from those people. </p>
</blockquote><p>if they're anything like me, they're staying away because of people like you</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<title>Further clarification as requested (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That's such a stupid argument, man. Let's apply it to real life:</p>
<p>Oh, you're going to your political debates? Don't worry, you can mute people on the other party! Does this make debate more difficult and impossible to find a middle ground, while promoting willful ignorance? Nonsense! It's opt-in! Most people will surely not even use it, therefore, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it!</p>
</blockquote><p>the fuck are you even saying? how is this possible in real life and why would anyone do it?<br />
and yes, what difference would it actually make? tons of people already ignore a political view they disagree with on principle, and in fact hearing a dissenting argument often makes people hold onto their side tighter (admittedly the same goes for hearing an agreeing argument, depending on the person)<br />
you're not getting at the heart of what you're attempting to attack, which is opt-in versus opt-out/automatic, let alone forced</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<title>This is an objectivley terrible idea. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But you know what? When something is objectively bad? It's bad.</p>
</blockquote><p>I think you're confused about facts and opinions, and what statements of quality fall under (opinions). I'll direct you to the Cody Miller Memorial School for the Opinion Challenged.</p>
<blockquote><p>As a moderator, you are essentially required to screen every post.</p>
</blockquote><p>That's not how it usually works. Usually stuff is allowed until it presents a problem. b.org only manages to (most of the time) get away with someone reading every post because the forums here are slow.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, this seems like a way to lump criticism into a pit. Is your post not part of the pro-Destiny circle-jerk? Into the blocked-out category you go!</p>
</blockquote><p>it's not blocked out<br />
people can choose to block it out, just like they choose block out posts made by a certain user or posts about DBO itself or posts about gathering a party or posts about the media or whatever</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to moderate, that's fine, but to essentially toss anything that isn't praise aside falls under so many red flags when it comes to having a community.</p>
</blockquote><p>no one said they were going to do that<br />
if I was a moderator I would be pretty insulted at someone claiming I was going to do that</p>
<p>thank you for reminding everyone you're a dick</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
<category>DBO</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Censorship, by moving a thread to a more appropriate category? That’s not censorship. And remember its opt out. Just like people can opt out of my Taylor Swift (Off Topic) threads.</p>
</blockquote><p>this<br />
censorship is when there are legal strictures, job loss, religious things, etc. in the way of saying what you want<br />
some categories on a forum are not censorship<br />
hell, bans on a forum are not censorship as long as it's the only forum in existence</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well shit, has it gotten that bad?<br />
I checked out some time ago but it wasn't so much the negativity about the game as it was the negativity towards other users and the way it was all so predictable and unchanging. (Speaking openly, some of the unflichingly positive posts and posters also grated on me, but most of the time that was paired with them being negative to people who disagreed which is more annoying.)<br />
To the people flying into a rage or worrying for the future, please don't. If b.org is defined by one thing (besides being stubborn), that thing is a light hand. The initial post and clarifications made it clear no bans or suspensions are being handed out and this is still one cohesive forum.<br />
I don't think anyone (aside from maybe one or two people) would be complaining if this had been the policy from the beginning. It's also worth noting that people <em>can and <strong>do</strong> already avoid threads</em> that they don't like, so this doesn't create an echo chamber to any significant degree beyond listing thread titles, post titles, and people who posted, which are what people base that avoidance on now. You can whine about people who whine about seeing negative thread titles, and that's valid in a way, but let's remember it's all whining and none of it really matters. What matters is real, meaty, non-whiny conversation.<br />
<span class="spoilertext">and frankly everyone talking about a slippery slope can fuck right off for the reasons above, the fact it's a fallacy, and just the fact I disagree with it that strongly</span></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am, LOL. Funk's not on it though. Also my list doesn't count for anything.</p>
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