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<title>Heh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Probably best to assume the fashion &quot;evolved&quot; over the next few centuries. :p</p>
</blockquote><p>If modern fashion is any indicator, there are really only 20 years' worth of actual fashions in existence and they keep recycling.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Kahzgul</dc:creator>
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<title>Heh. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably best to assume the fashion &quot;evolved&quot; over the next few centuries. :p</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>No chance (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FWC is not known for their fashion, and the Exo stranger is very color coordinated. No purple anywhere!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Exo Stranger, Founder of the Future War Cult? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FWC rep is said to harbor secrets. Maybe the Future War Cult is doing <em>a lot more</em> than babbling about war being the only future? Could they potentially be fighting across timelines in secret?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>No doubt. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Holy hell (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good point. Rasputin does <a href="index.php?id=91231" class="internal">say</a> he knows who she is. He then ask who she belongs to as she's not a Guardian, not with the Darkness and not answering to him ( though being an Exo she must have once.) At least that's how I read it.</p>
</blockquote><p>How did I miss that post (the one you linked to)?  Best post ever.</p>
<p>It's weird, but some of Durandal's comments make more sense within the context of Destiny than they do within the context of Marathon (my perception - I am only marginally informed in that regard).</p>
<p>All of this plays in the meta of game-playing.  In-universe, a guardian appearing out of nowhere (i.e. logging on and off), dying, being resurrected, always winning would be nonsensical to the observer.</p>
<p>It's literally god-power, in which succeeding is only a matter of deciding to.  But it's limited god-power, in that only the trial presented can be overcome (i.e. I can't go climb that mountain unless the game was designed to allow me to).</p>
<p>We're given god-power, but little control over fate.  We may be supreme, but only along a specific path...or Destiny.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>yakaman</dc:creator>
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<title>and you’re certainly not MINE (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&quot;and you’re certainly not MINE although once you must have been&quot;</p>
<p>This implies that all Exos worked for Rasputin, but he currently does not control her currently, nor does he recognize her because then he would have said that she was his, not that she must have been.  Rasputin is inferring that because she is an exo she must have been in his role of battle.</p>
</blockquote><p>Or this is simply a time-line in which she was not his, or was never his, because she died or never existed in this time-line.  He is stated that she is not his because he has no record of her, but that she must have been his because all Exo's were his.</p>
<p>Or something.  Kills causality within a given time-line, but not within the multiverse.</p>
<p>Or something.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>These posts of yours ... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>are my favorite posts.</p>
<p>You're awesome, Raga.</p>
</blockquote><p>...are the reason *BO are my favorite places on the internet. :)</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Mid7night</dc:creator>
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<title>and you’re certainly not MINE (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;and you’re certainly not MINE although once you must have been&quot;</p>
<p>This implies that all Exos worked for Rasputin, but he currently does not control her currently, nor does he recognize her because then he would have said that she was his, not that she must have been.  Rasputin is inferring that because she is an exo she must have been in his role of battle.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Durandal</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<title>These posts of yours ... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are my favorite posts.</p>
<p>You're awesome, Raga.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Exo Stranger, Founder of the Future War Cult? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Rasputin does <a href="index.php?id=91231" class="internal">say</a> he knows who she is. He then ask who she belongs to as she's not a Guardian, not with the Darkness and not answering to him ( though being an Exo she must have once.) At least that's how I read it.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Ragashingo</dc:creator>
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<title>The Exo Stranger, Founder of the Future War Cult? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Given that, and that Exos are somewhat uniquely styled, [Rasputin] should be able to recognize the Stranger's make and model and link it to the project, if the two were directly related.</p>
</blockquote><p>I must have missed something.  Why do you think that Rasputin doesn't know who the Exo Stranger is?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 19:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure. It's certainly a good question. Why wouldn't the Warmind in charge of our defense not know the identity of an Exo. There's multiple decent reasons, of course, but none that has any real evidence so far.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 18:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>But not the same 20 guys. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>The Exo Stranger, Founder of the Future War Cult? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, the person who lead a ragtag army against the forces of a world superpower and won, also presided over the body who helped write the founding documents of a new nation, and who also led that new nation as its first elected leader were all the same person. </p>
<p>In modern histroy, the guy who helped write Toy Story, one of the most beloved children's movies of all time, also was behind Firefly, one of the most beloved scifi shows of all time, wrote one of my favorite X-Men stories of all time, and now is one of the guys in charge of Marvel's award wining, record breaking string of superhero movies.</p>
<p><em>Even in the real world capable people do sometimes show up in multiple roles in history. </em></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Ragashingo</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it was reporting to him directly in his messages?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Durandal</dc:creator>
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<title>The Exo Stranger, Founder of the Future War Cult? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasputin wasn't the only Warmind back then. The events on Venus and in Tibet could have fallen under another Warmind who was disabled or destroyed during the collapse.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Ragashingo</dc:creator>
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<title>The Exo Stranger, Founder of the Future War Cult? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is a very interesting possibility, that the Stranger and the FWC are related.</p>
<p>What if they did see a vision of the future where some horrible event happened?  What if no one would believe you if you told them the future had this monstrous thing, that you can't even fully comprehend, come and destroy all?  </p>
<p>In the heyday of the Golden Age it is unlikely any but the supervising Warmind would take it seriously.  The FWC is going to send a ghost through the device.  I could see the Golden Age team sending an Exo or &quot;platform&quot; AI as well.  </p>
<p>But it doesn't explain why Rasputin doesn't know about it, he would have to have known about the project since it was providing data to him during the Collapse.  More over he would have to know about the Exos and the simulated minds going into the Vex system. </p>
<p>Given that, and that Exos are somewhat uniquely styled, he should be able to recognize the Stranger's make and model and link it to the project, if the two were directly related.</p>
<p>The Stranger also seems to have been subject to strange and fantastic forces, as the flavor text on her rifle indicates.  The machine does not seem to cause any of those effects on it's users.  </p>
<p>They might still be related, but I don't think they are the same person.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Durandal</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they DO appear connected, they are likely the same person.</p>
<p>The universe in Destiny is young adult novel small. For example. Bella has a problem with the ruling class of vampires, and Carlisle happens to be old friends with them. Or, Tris has a problem with Janeane, and it just so happens her brother is working with her. Or, there needs to be a new president of Panem, so Commander Paylor, an otherwise unremarkable character only known through the virtue of having once been in a scene with Katniss, gets elected.</p>
<p>In Destiny, Toland has Bad Juju, and is also the guy we use for reference about hive stuff, AND was part of Eris's fireteam. Cayde is not just the hunter guy, but the guy who gave them cloaking, and the guy who allowed us to get to the dreadnought. Even Praedyth, who succumbed to the gorgons, wiping him from existence (which I think we can infer from all the stories about Kabr fighting alone and nobody knowing about him), shows up in the new story. They have like 20 people they use over and over.</p>
<p>Considering this, I highly doubt this character would be so well developed and NOT used as the stranger, particularly with how the two relate. In the real world, I'd say &quot;there's no real indication of the two being one in the same, and you're a conspiracy theorist.&quot; In Destiny, they're definitely the same person.</p>
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