RIP Hawkmoon :-(

If anybody has tried it, it's been hit pretty hard. It's such a shame because it not only was a great weapon, but FELT great. Imago Loop is getting me more wins, but it's not as satisfying to use.

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3 shot kills at scout rifle range seemed a bit rediculous to me. Maybe I'm just jealous because I never got kills with Hawkmoon. :P

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If anybody has tried it, it's been hit pretty hard. It's such a shame because it not only was a great weapon, but FELT great. Imago Loop is getting me more wins, but it's not as satisfying to use.

The worst part is that I was starting to get good with it again, ironically because of the fact that I stopped playing Destiny for a while. Something about how the Hawkmoon handles has become embedded in my muscle memory, and it helped get me to the Lighthouse repeatedly the past couple of weeks. I've struggled to get back into the groove with almost all other weapons (even Smite of Merain)...
Why does Bungie hate Hawkmoon so much?

What makes it exotic now, if it's no longer any better than other hand cannons?

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Well it can still 2 shot kill…

But yeah. Looks like of all the exotic hand cannons, the last word has come out on top.

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Well it can still 2 shot kill…

But yeah. Looks like of all the exotic hand cannons, the last word has come out on top.

Only at point-blank range, and assuming you land both headshots. Every other time it's a three-shot kill, same as TDYK.

What about Ace of Spades? I thought that got tweaked, not nerfed...

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Surely it couldn't be worse than before after the buff......

Plus I put alot of effort into getting it.

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Surely it couldn't be worse than before after the buff......

Plus I put alot of effort into getting it.

On paper, the First Curse looks much better now... which isn't saying much. It was horrible to begin with. So we'll have to see if the tweaks bring it all the way up into "great weapon" territory, or if it is still limping around in "mediocre-ville".

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I levelled it up and tried it on a strike a few weeks ago. I didn't last more than 5 minutes and I love high impact hand cannons. It was that bad. I expect it's usable but not amazing at this point.

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Yea thats the general consensus. The RoF tagged with the low magazine, along with mediocre stats and an exotic perk that relies on precision shots, the cards are stacked against it. hopefully with the buffs, and the ADS buff mostly, it may be a more viable option. BUFF EXOTIC HAND CANNONS!

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I tried it out last night. Refilling the mag on the first precision kill makes the low mag better. You can knock down the shield on an enemy, headshot, and get your magazine refilled instantly. The aim assist was noticeably better. I don't know how the range stacks up to other hand cannons now, but it seemed to be good out to a pretty decent range. It's not a definite go-to weapon, but it's not as bad as it was.

In PvP it's just not going to be as good as mid-rof hand cannons. It was still a 3 shot kill. Better range, but if you want range why not go for a pulse or scout?

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Yea thats the general consensus. The RoF tagged with the low magazine, along with mediocre stats and an exotic perk that relies on precision shots, the cards are stacked against it. hopefully with the buffs, and the ADS buff mostly, it may be a more viable option. BUFF EXOTIC HAND CANNONS!

I don't think we have ever needed to really buff hand cannons... This is the first time an exotic hand cannon has sucked, every other one has been so over powered that they have been nerfed left and right.

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It was definitely a joke, because of all the people yelling Nerf Exotic Hand cannons many moons ago.

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It was definitely a joke, because of all the people yelling Nerf Exotic Hand cannons many moons ago.

Okay phew... I was close to tying you up and burning you at the stake. Now they just need to buff all of the non Suros exotic AR's. That would make me happy.

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Early in Year 1, people were begging for a Thorn buff, since it was pretty difficult to get initially, and it wasn't actually that great. I'm not sure what they did to it, but I'm sure we all remember the results.

Edit: check out these notes from the first patch - Everything gets buffed (except Suros)

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Great AA, but still the slowest TtK of any handcannon. Possibly any non-AR primary?

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Well it can still 2 shot kill…

But yeah. Looks like of all the exotic hand cannons, the last word has come out on top.

Only at point-blank range, and assuming you land both headshots. Every other time it's a three-shot kill, same as TDYK.

What about Ace of Spades? I thought that got tweaked, not nerfed...

I think you can only 2 shot now with aggressive ballistics… which is even MORE of a bummer. The lucky bullet went from 1.3x to 1.2x according to the notes I think.

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I hadn't realised that? What was the point of the 40% LitC nerf? To stop you from 3-shotting on the body maybe?

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I hadn't realised that? What was the point of the 40% LitC nerf? To stop you from 3-shotting on the body maybe?

It makes it so that if you have high enough armor you can survive a 2 shot where one is a lucky bullet.

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It hadn't occurred to me that you meant it still 2-shots if you get two lucky shots. I got so excited for a second, thinking you meant 1 lucky and 1 normal. Now I'm back to being sad again.

RIP Hawky.

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RIP Hawky.

Just came back from the Child's Play Charity Dinner - Bungie donated a Hawkmoon 3D-printed and painted by a Bungie artist (it was beautiful). Sold for $4200.

So it's not COMPLETELY dead. ;)

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It hadn't occurred to me that you meant it still 2-shots if you get two lucky shots. I got so excited for a second, thinking you meant 1 lucky and 1 normal. Now I'm back to being sad again.

RIP Hawky.

As far as I can tell:

With Aggressive Ballistics, you can two shot someone if their armor is low enough and both shots are headshots and at least one bullet is lucky, and you are close enough where there is no damage falloff. Before, it was pretty much you can two shot anybody from any range.

The change from 1.3x to 1.2x is to allow high armor targets to survive a one lucky bullet two shot.

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Stats look really good on it, I'm looking forward to trying it out once I have a night where I'm not working till midnight.

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Stats look really good on it, I'm looking forward to trying it out once I have a night where I'm not working till midnight.

I was getting wrecked by that gun last night in PvP. That being said, that doesn't mean it's a good gun ^.^

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Stats look really good on it, I'm looking forward to trying it out once I have a night where I'm not working till midnight.

I was getting wrecked by that gun last night in PvP. That being said, that doesn't mean it's a good gun ^.^

I did okay with it, but I was honestly mostly just trying out my new striker titan moves, which didn't jive with the handcannon so well. Seems solid though, I'm going to compare it to my Uffern and last word tonight.

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I want to try the first curse now.

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