I would probably still buy it, but..

They completely negated year 1. They had a decent attempt at making old raids viable by having you do atheon for the NTTE quest, but nonetheless its still a useless raid. All the gear that was not brought foward is still pretty useless outside of that raid/crucible.

If I knew that there would essentially be a yearly reset, I would be hard pressed to play. They are in between a rock and a hard place. They have to please console numbers of players with gear/mmo based gameplay. They don't want the gap to be too big to deter people, in doing so, they make being a "invested since day 1 player" a less prestigious item. One good thing that happens MMOs, if you invest the time, eventually someone is going to look at you and say "Wow, this guy has been around and knows what he is doing" or "I want to work towards that gear". In Destiny, its not the case.

After re-reading that I was comparing Destiny to MMO, which is completely wrong of me. But there is something to it. Some of you may understand where I went, or I could be insane. Happy monday.

for the sake of my level so I could play certain content.

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For me, I think it would be having nothing to show for an entire year of gameplay except an emblem I don't like the look of. Bungie essentially completely negated Year 1 with Taken King.

I'm not sure i really understand that complaint. That's like being bummed that Halo 2 didn't let you play Halo 1's content. I guess I KIND of get where you are coming from in the sense that you can't play old stuff exactly the same way you did at launch (dinklebot, quest revamp, leveling and progression revamp, etc), and that's a problem, but the 'nothing to show' thing is kind of confusing to me. I've got nothing to show for my years as a fan of Marathon / Myth / Oni / Halo, but I'm not sure why I'd need anything to show anyway.

The game isn't as good as I thought it was last year, but it's still the best game I've ever played.

The only thing that would have given me pause, I think, would have been knowing just how horrible the story in Vanilla Destiny was. But it wouldn't have stopped me from buying it; I would just have significantly adjusted my expectations.

If you knew pre-launch what you know now about Destiny, what true thing about Destiny would've made you not buy it?

We're all invested for one reason or another--gameplay, community, challenge--so this is just an exercise in recognition and perspective.

For me, I think it would be having nothing to show for an entire year of gameplay except an emblem I don't like the look of. Bungie essentially completely negated Year 1 with Taken King.

I knew I wasn't going to get into the game when I saw how much the sandbox had been cut down from Halo. Enemy behavior was sharply restricted, vehicles didn't play a major role, there were no flukes of physics to toss screaming Grunts around or flip your Warthog on top of a skyscraper.

I understand why it was necessary to cut down on complexity for the shared world design, but I want to play a game about interacting with a physical world and a set of plausibly lifelike NPCs, not a game about making numbers larger.

The raids are really cool, though.

edit: And the first moment I ran down into the dark ramp in the starting bubble with all the crashed cars, and didn't find any kind of secret or reward for exploration, really turned me off. That's where you put something if you want to signal the player 'this game rewards poking around!'

Not really a Destiny problem so much as a someotherguy problem, but Destiny has not been especially good for me. I've been taking a bit of a break lately to do less addicting things with my time. Like meth :p

Im sure i'll be back for Destiny 2, but I'll probably have to impose a 1 character rule.

The amount of error codes and 'contacting Destiny servers' I get. I've encountered them fairly frequently since launch, and they do get very annoying. Still, it's not enough to stop me playing it though,

Everyone's said it already--the Year 1 middle finger, the worthless grind, switching out Ghosts...

That's reasons for me to roll my eyes at Destiny.

What would've made me stop--this light level nonsense; i.e. here.

I already said all I needed to say in that post, so I won't rehash it here. But that's one of those 'seemed like such a good idea at the time' type things.

To elaborate on the worthless grind--don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the raids--all three of them--but Nicolas Cage was completely right--raids are the most difficult activities ever. There's this guy I know, an old friend--we met boosting for Halo Wars and we kinda clicked--every single time I saw him online--EVERY time--he was doing a raid. And I'm not talking one per character per week, either. He was doing multiple raids per day, with different people! (Sherpa?) He raided so much we never really got to hang out any more, and we pretty much grew apart. Non-stop. I don't have time for frequent raids--not just because of the tedium of finding six people, but usually in the LFG's (and sometimes DBO too) most people don't know what they're doing, easily tripling the time spent in a single activity. Meanwhile out in the normal PvE(and at home in the Tower) all the engrams we get are pretty much garbage. Even the legendaries are shameful now. You work for days on end to get 200 Legendary Marks and you come home and everything is 280. In Year 1, all I got was worthless blues. In Year 2, all I'm getting is worthless purples. I personally don't think patrollers(F7) and bounty hunters should get such a big jump, but an occasional armor piece that's actually stronger than what you have equipped would be really nice.

And bring Dinklage back. This kiddie ghost is NOT working out.

If I had to boil it down to one thing, it is that the game is demanding and doesn't really respect your time. All too often RNG gets in the way of getting what you want or you need to sink massive time to get what you want.

Or to put it another way Destiny isn't a game it is a hobby and as a grown man with a job and a family you really only get one hobby. So do you only want to play Destiny?

I'm kind of glad there will be no more paid DLC until Destiny 2 because I'm not sure if I want to spend the money keeping current. I'll also be thinking hard about Destiny 2. While Bungie has learned from each DLC release, I feel like too many mechanics have been one step forward and two back (TTK exotics I'm looking at you).

If I knew how quickly I'd get bored of TTK, I wouldn't have bought it.

That might be a lie, I bought Fallout 4 and played it for 3 hours.

The story.

I bought this game because I wanted to be sucked into another world like I was with Halo.

None of that has happened (thus far).

I'm optimistic for destiny 2, but if it is more of the same, that's where I get off.

I've thoroughly enjoyed playing Destiny, you know? I'm sitting here trying very hard to come up with a reason to trash Bungie over something as a way to justify not purchasing this game in the past, and I can't manage it. Don't get me wrong, there are so many things in this game that infuriate me to no end, but not enough for me not to have bought it. Consumer-hostile skinner boxing? Consumer-hostile pricing schemes? Macrotransactions? WEASEL ERRORS. All of that hasn't been enough for me to have not wanted to purchase it, even if I had known about them ahead of time.

I will not, however, ever give Bungie a single cent when it comes to their micro/macrotransactions. Ever. Never say never? Never. It's not gonna happen. And, just like at launch, they won't ever get a pre-order or season pass purchase from me. No guaranteed money. If for some reason something happens that makes me say no way to a DLC/expansion/sequel, I'll drop it at that time. So far, so good, though. The majority of my experience has definitely dwarfed the rest.