So, Humans, Exos, and Awoken Guardians can all wield the light. Am I right in that the Fallen can wield it too? For example the Captains use it to teleport, yeessss?

So here's my question, can non-guardian humans, exo, and awoken wield it? My guess is no, if that's correct then why not? Why is it only the guardians from this solar system? It appears "regular" Fallen/Eliksni can.

Also, is that how the queen & techeun(s?) summon the harbingers, through the light?

So, Humans, Exos, and Awoken Guardians can all wield the light. Am I right in that the Fallen can wield it too? For example the Captains use it to teleport, yeessss?

So here's my question, can non-guardian humans, exo, and awoken wield it? My guess is no, if that's correct then why not? Why is it only the guardians from this solar system? It appears "regular" Fallen/Eliksni can.

Also, is that how the queen & techeun(s?) summon the harbingers, through the light?

I'm pretty sure the implications are that any non-Guardians use the Darkness or technology. There doesn't seem to be any suggestions to the contrary, but I could of course be mistaken.

So, Humans, Exos, and Awoken Guardians can all wield the light. Am I right in that the Fallen can wield it too? For example the Captains use it to teleport, yeessss?

So here's my question, can non-guardian humans, exo, and awoken wield it? My guess is no, if that's correct then why not? Why is it only the guardians from this solar system? It appears "regular" Fallen/Eliksni can.

Also, is that how the queen & techeun(s?) summon the harbingers, through the light?

So there are these things called Midichlorians...

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I'm pretty sure the implications are that any non-Guardians use the Darkness or technology. There doesn't seem to be any suggestions to the contrary, but I could of course be mistaken.

Even the queen?

It wouldn't surprise me if the Fallen could, since they were supposed to have had interactions with the traveler in the past, and it's the traveler that imbues/teaches others how to use the light.

I'm pretty sure the implications are that any non-Guardians use the Darkness or technology. There doesn't seem to be any suggestions to the contrary, but I could of course be mistaken.

Even the queen?

It wouldn't surprise me if the Fallen could, since they were supposed to have had interactions with the traveler in the past, and it's the traveler that imbues/teaches others how to use the light.

what if the queen is a guardian, and chose to use her power to rule the awoken. maybe she has a ghost hidden away somewhere and will be revived.

I sometimes wonder if all the Awoken have some capacity with the Light. But even if they don't, the Queen is pretty clearly at a level beyond her underlings.

It appears "regular" Fallen/Eliksni can.

Maybe. I don't know if the Fallen have civilians, but let's assume they don't and the dregs are the closest thing. I don't see the dregs or vandals doing anything special for the most part. Just shooting guns and throwing grenades. Also, stabbing. The captains' teleports and the vandals' cloaks could be technological (come to think of it, Cade says the Hunters' cloaks are).

The more powerful Fallen, on the other hand, definitely can. Skolas was able to manipulate it directly, and probably other Kells have similar abilities. And who knows what the Servitors get up to?

So there are these things called Midichlorians...

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So, Humans, Exos, and Awoken Guardians can all wield the light. Am I right in that the Fallen can wield it too? For example the Captains use it to teleport, yeessss?

So here's my question, can non-guardian humans, exo, and awoken wield it? My guess is no, if that's correct then why not? Why is it only the guardians from this solar system? It appears "regular" Fallen/Eliksni can.

Also, is that how the queen & techeun(s?) summon the harbingers, through the light?

The way I see it, The Traveler came, terraformed our worlds, then settled at Mars and waited for us to investigate. Once we did, it (somehow) shared technological knowledge that lead to things like NLS drives and Exos and Warminds, but even at the height of the Golden Age we were still just Humans (and Exos) colonizing our solar system and building ever greater achievements. I do think Light probably played a role in the Golden Age. In fact, I know it did since one of the astronauts who went to greet The Traveler said this about his life in the years that followed:

I knew I'd never fly another mission like that. I recognized the need for a new love. That's why I threw my fresh cognitive skills into understanding the Traveler. How can one entity so quickly and utterly remake an entire world? Fifty years later, I'm conversant in high mathematics, particularly topological thoughts and the slippery irreality of Light. I'm involved in a project to study the Traveler's terraforming actions right now.

This is echoed again where a father (on Venus?) was teaching his young son about how things changed when the Golden Age came into being:

When I was your age, people thought they knew almost everything. We had scientific laws and human truths, even a model of the universe. People carried pictures of the past and tried to have a clear vision of their difficult future. I didn't know everything, of course. But when I was a boy, I had every expectation of living a smart short life and learning quite a lot more.

"Then the Before was finished.

"You know why.

"That's when everybody, particularly the smartest of us, learned that we knew nothing. We were children and our little ideas were toys, and the universe was cut apart with great ideas and magnificent, immeasurable potentials."

During the Golden Age, I think maybe Light was seen as the product of using cutting edge technology and knowledge to manipulate the physical world in ways that did not make sense or at least did not fit within our previous scientific knowledge. The new possibilities that manipulating Light brought tripled our lifespans and allowed for inventions and technologies previously thought impossible, but I don't think anyone would themselves direct and channel it like Guardians of the City Age now can.

Likewise, I would expect things be similar with the Eliksni. They had a Golden Age of exploration and technological expansion, perhaps one far more extensive and expansive than our own. But, they too harnessed Light through the use of technology. Variks even briefly touches on this when considering the motives and fate of Skolas in The Wolves of Mars:

“Another Prime, destroyed. Once sources of life, Light. Hope. Now a sign of decay. Machines as gods.

Conspire with Kells. Conspire to kill, to conquer, to control.

This will not end. There will always be new Kell. There will always be new Prime, yes?

Skolas was savage. Skolas was cruel. Skolas was ... right. Only Kell of Kells can end the slaughter. Only Kell of Kells can unite the Houses.

Even we seemed to be using Light as weaponry when the Collapse came, but what Rasputin talks about sure seems like technologically produced effects similar Guardian type abilities:

IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive?

In the end, I think what we as Guardians are doing with Light is unique and has never been seen before. But at what cost? Yes, we pushed back the Vex, killed Crota, and even took on Orxy's powerful fleet but we only did so after Rasputin attacked and nearly killed The Traveler. What will it think of us if it ever awakens? What long term disasters might we have set in motion?

I can't wait to find out! :)

They can sense Light at least. Listen to some of the muttering and conversations by the Awoken on The Reef. They talk about Guardians' light pressing against them or being uncomfortably bright. That, and Petra can float her knife above her hand. :p

It appears "regular" Fallen/Eliksni can.

Maybe. I don't know if the Fallen have civilians, but let's assume they don't and the dregs are the closest thing. I don't see the dregs or vandals doing anything special for the most part. Just shooting guns and throwing grenades. Also, stabbing. The captains' teleports and the vandals' cloaks could be technological (come to think of it, Cade says the Hunters' cloaks are).

The more powerful Fallen, on the other hand, definitely can. Skolas was able to manipulate it directly, and probably other Kells have similar abilities. And who knows what the Servitors get up to?

I don't think Hunters' cloaking ability being based in technology means it's not also heavily based on Light. I think it's pretty clear that Light can at least be harnessed and manipulated by technology. (AKA: See my other post down below)

I really want to know the Mediclorian count of the new characters...

Most of the topics I've read have mode a point of differentiating Technology and Light as separate things. But whose to say light isn't just advanced technology only known to the speaker? I mean, just think of our past, most advanced technology was considered magic to someone who knew nothing about it...

If Light is just technology, it could be that some of the other races of a smaller grasp of how "Light" works and is able to simulate it. Just not to the extent that the traveler is able to.