If your group is good enough to kill 2 deathsingers in 2 rounds, they can handle red bar Randalls.

Funkmon away!

Just came across a "new" strategy on Reddit where you kill the flailing sister (Ir Halak) first instead of the other one. This is the kind of thing that I would have thought had already been discovered and would have been the first thing our group tried if our friendly *cough*asshole*cough* guide hadn't specifically told us that attacking the angry red sister would cause us to wipe instead of letting us figure out the encounter on our own.

I don't know that the snipers have really been an issue more than once or twice in all of the times I've done the raid, but it might help just having one less thing to look out for.

-Disciple

I'm a little confused - so you're supposed to slam the brand on Ir Halak's platform first? I thought we'd tried that a few times (on normal, not hard), and each time we wiped.

The way that reddit post reads, though, is that the ONLY difference is that you shoot Ir Halak first, instead of Ir Anuk - I didn't even think you could do damage to her if you slammed the brand on the other side. :(

Timers start at 1 minute. Jump on platforms in the proper order. Start shooting anything that moves (all initial adds are in the middle)
45 seconds... people on platforms get ready for snipers.
40 seconds... kill snipers (there is one behind each platform, they die in 2-3 shots each, or one snipe). The runner should be nearing the relic.
32 seconds... throw grenades where the second round of adds spawn. Runner relic slam!
30 seconds... Move to the place where you're gonna shoot sister 1 from.
29-0 seconds... shoot the living piss out of sister 1.

Repeat, but shoot sister 2 this time.

Why is anyone ever worried about snipers?

Tuesday night?

Just came across a "new" strategy on Reddit where you kill the flailing sister (Ir Halak) first instead of the other one. This is the kind of thing that I would have thought had already been discovered and would have been the first thing our group tried if our friendly *cough*asshole*cough* guide hadn't specifically told us that attacking the angry red sister would cause us to wipe instead of letting us figure out the encounter on our own.

I don't know that the snipers have really been an issue more than once or twice in all of the times I've done the raid, but it might help just having one less thing to look out for.

-Disciple

Our clan did this method our very first blind Raid run, so it's really weird hearing it as breaking news.

It's about timing; if your group is tight and your randomly-chosen runner can get to the daughter fast enough, sure. For our clan, we tended to be more concerned about "keeping it going" because we would be successful as long as we didn't wipe; if it took 3 rounds or 4, who cares.

Killing the singing daughter doesn't give you any safety net. Once you kill that first one, you must kill the second one on the next round, and it will be at 100% health. And on hard mode, you don't have as much time to set up for the second run, so you potentially have a smaller window in which to do damage.

Like Golgoroth, just choose the method that is best for your group.

But theres not really any benefit? If you can kill each sister in one DpS phase it doesnt really matter which you start on, surely?

The Relic jumper should have no problem grabbing the Aura straight from the Relic platform, since it'll now be a short jump to the nearest sister.

If you see the Relic above R1 or R2, you're going to shoot the sister on that side. The second he grabs the relic, everyone runs to the adjacent platform, and the Jumper should have stolen the Aura by the time everyone's in position.

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