I'm constantly getting shotgunned through walls, firing my golden gun at a guy who then teleports backwards and doesn't die, or seeing the guy who just killed me skipping around the map (and not using blink). It has gotten better since the December patch, but still makes me rage. If I put two shotgun blasts into someone's back, they should not be able to turn around and melee me to death, only to fall over three seconds later. Needs fixing.

Even on my worst case, least optimistic nights I would never say I'm constantly seeing such major lag issues. Not even close. To me, your experience seems extreme and not representative.

That's the hope.

I'm constantly getting shotgunned through walls, firing my golden gun at a guy who then teleports backwards and doesn't die, or seeing the guy who just killed me skipping around the map (and not using blink). It has gotten better since the December patch, but still makes me rage. If I put two shotgun blasts into someone's back, they should not be able to turn around and melee me to death, only to fall over three seconds later. Needs fixing.

Sounds like you need to get a better connection. ;-)

I say that teasingly, yet also honestly. Are you sure your router/modem doesn't experience intermittent failures? I had a period of a couple months were my connection LOOKED good. Speed tests returned good bandwidth with low latency. I usually had a green bar in Destiny, but occasionally I would have periodic lag. Using various net tools I was able to determine it was actually periodic packet loss between me & the first hop out of my house. I forget exactly how I ended up getting my connection ironed out, (new cable modem maybe?) but after messing around with it for a while my connection cleaned up & things have been better.

edit: typo

It's possible. I just moved in December so I've got a whole new setup that is far better than what I had before (used to be on wifi, now am wired). 75 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up, allegedly. I usually get 50 down, but that's still well above what I'd need for any online game. I can also add that playing CoD, Titanfall, or any other online game on my Xbone doesn't have any latency issues remotely close to what I have seen in Destiny, but I also play Destiny a lot more because that's where my friends are, so add a grain of salt.

The worst lag that I've ever encountered was on PS4, though, when the entire enemy team was operating on another level of lag:

But that was such a freak occurence that I felt it was worth recording. 99.9% of the time, that doesn't happen. Not even half as bad as that.

I saw this post yesterday, but didn't have time to watch the vid then... I'm glad I came back to it. I found this fascinating, on a few levels.

Yes, there was definitely egregious lag in a few instances. (The Hammer bro who took zero damage around 8:25 is a prime example.) But most of what I saw (at least from Korny's perspective, in this game) was pretty minor - folks he got the drop on died, folks who were teamshooting him (or who caught him from an unseen angle) killed him. If anything, this recording is a fantastic example of how lag can affect some players more than others (obviously at least two of the other players on the team were feeling put-upon by the level of lag).

To add to that, note how in the very beginning, the Titan clearly sticks me with a Fusion grenade, but the explosion is so delayed that I'm actually able to walk away from it without taking damage. I imagine that he was probably accusing me of cheating/modding/bribing Bungie. Swings both ways sometimes.

And even though four of them were red-bar, only the two green-bars were getting any kills, so there's that... I didn't have as much trouble damaging them as the other folks in the party apparently did, so yeah, different folks can have a different experience with lag within the same match. Maybe that's why I don't really see an issue despite my teammate's constantly blaming lag for all of the world's problems...

Dunno. I think that this might be a good way of calibrating what people CONSIDER lag - because what I saw in this game wasn't 'another level of lag', at least in my opinion. Like I said, there were a few moments that were terrible - but I'd be hard-pressed to find more than half-a-dozen examples (and in a 13 minute game, that's really not outrageous - I've had games that were like that 8:25 example for the entire game). If you watch this video and think "omg that's really horrible lag", then you and I are talking about different things when we talk about lag.

Yeah. I posted this because lag this bad is rare, and it wasn't really THAT bad in the grand scheme of things (and it's not like it cost us the match). Compared to examples from other games, Destiny is one of the best-running multiplayer games that I play. So much so that actual cases of lag stick out like a sore thumb.

Folks doth protest too much, methinks...

Yeah... That's the thing. From reading Kahzgul posts I am lead to believe that Destiny's networking is crap and everything else is better. Then you show me those two clips! Am I being mislead about the advantages of other networking models? Because what happened in those clips is completely unacceptable. I sure as heck will accept Destiny's lag vs the game rewinding my position on the map.

7 games played, 2 had noticeable moments of lag, but it did not appear to be persistent or significantly affect gameplay. 1 had real lag and we backed out of that game (it was a premade team of 3 running in Salvage and 1 guy was lagging at the head of the pack every time we saw them. Really looked like cheating to me). The other four games had no lag whatsoever. End result was I got in 6 pretty decent games and since we identified cheaters immediately, we were only in that game for about a minute.

1 game with severe, game crippling lag (appeared to be cheating).
2 games with brief moments of minor lag
4 games with no lag at all
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7 total games

Also I watched that loop 4 times before realizing it was a loop... :p