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What's up with this overwatch thing? (Gaming)

by Vortech @, A Fourth Wheel, Thursday, June 02, 2016, 21:09 (3100 days ago)

I heard nothing about this before it launched, or IIRC even rally at launch. Oblique comments on twitter and such have been mixed, but I can't tell what the general consensus is. Video makes it look a lot like TF2 and I enjoy FPS games that require teamwork, and to a lesser extent class-based cooperation (Well, I liked Tribes and TF2. Those may be the only examples.)

Anyway, I'd be interested in a general temperature check from people who have played it.

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What's up with this overwatch thing?

by cheapLEY @, Thursday, June 02, 2016, 21:13 (3100 days ago) @ Vortech

I played it for a bit over two hours at a friend's house and absolutely loved it. It's a really fun class-based shooter with great characters and lots of charm. I couldn't say how well it holds up over the long term, but I strongly suspect pretty well, and knowing Blizzard, it'll be supported for a long time.

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What's up with this overwatch thing?

by slycrel ⌂, Thursday, June 02, 2016, 21:18 (3100 days ago) @ Vortech

I've got it. I'm a big TFC/TF2 fan and it's got a lot of similarities. It's pretty fun, though I think I'm hardcore enough to miss destiny a little after playing it for a while. My biggest gripe is that there is no force feedback, so I have to visually determine where I'm being shot from. There's also no warning if you are near-dead other than your smallish health bar in the bottom left of the screen.

That said, it's got a lot of complexity and potential. I'll be playing it off and on here and there. Would be a fun game to play with a big group of friends. The art style is very much like TF2. The gameplay is quite rapid, much faster than Destiny. Matches are typically 5 minutes long. Oh, and micro-transactions that may or may not make you hate it depending on where you are on those. =)

It definitely doesn't take itself too seriously, which is a plus.

Also, my 10yo loves it to pieces. There's a lot to like there.

What's up with this overwatch thing?

by General Battuta, Friday, June 03, 2016, 01:11 (3100 days ago) @ Vortech

It's crazy that you heard nothing about Overwatch. I don't even follow video games much and I couldn't avoid it — it's crossed over from 'large game release' to 'minor cultural event'.

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What's up with this overwatch thing?

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, June 03, 2016, 01:16 (3100 days ago) @ General Battuta

To be fair, I heard a LOT more fanfare over Battleborn (whose chatter is practically dead now *shrugs*) up until the open Beta, give or take Tracer's "scandal".

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Seriously?

by cheapLEY @, Friday, June 03, 2016, 01:27 (3100 days ago) @ ZackDark

To be fair, I heard a LOT more fanfare over Battleborn (whose chatter is practically dead now *shrugs*) up until the open Beta, give or take Tracer's "scandal".

That's absolutely crazy to me. I only knew anything about Battleborn because I listen to things like the Giant Bombcast and Kinda Funny Games podcast (and a few others). I heard about Overwatch absolutely everywhere.

I bought it for PC and Xbox

by Avateur @, Friday, June 03, 2016, 01:52 (3100 days ago) @ Vortech

That's how much I enjoy playing this game. Different groups of friends on different systems, and I was more than happy to oblige playing with both.

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Not worth the $60 console price...

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Friday, June 03, 2016, 02:12 (3100 days ago) @ Vortech

... is how I feel about it, honestly. It's a ton of fun, but I can't recall ever seeing a game more limited in content than Overwatch. To put it into perspective, the entire game was essentially in the Beta. It came included in my brother's PS4 bundle, so we have one copy (since he wasn't too enthralled with it after playing it), but it's one of those games that gets really repetitive after a bit. I likely won't be buying it for myself until it's on a flash sale or price drop.

We did get Battleborn at launch a few weeks ago, though, and that one's still fun, since content-wise, it has fewer MP maps, but it does include eight 5-player story missions. Unfortunately not too many people picked up Battleborn, but given Gearbox's history of drowning us with quality post-launch content (the first new character is already one of my favorites), I hope people give it another look.

But yeah, if it wasn't for Overwatch's characters and tons and tons of marketing, I think it would have been chewed out for the lack of content and dismal unlock system (which is entirely cosmetic, sure, but way too grindy for what it is).

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Following Gearbox on Twitter might've helped ;p

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, June 03, 2016, 02:20 (3100 days ago) @ cheapLEY

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Following Gearbox on Twitter might've helped ;p

by CyberKN ⌂ @, Oh no, Destiny 2 is bad, Friday, June 03, 2016, 02:31 (3099 days ago) @ ZackDark

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Not worth the $60 console price...

by cheapLEY @, Friday, June 03, 2016, 02:42 (3099 days ago) @ Korny

... is how I feel about it, honestly. It's a ton of fun, but I can't recal

l ever seeing a game more limited in content than Overwatch.

Did you play Battlefront? I guess maybe it technically had more content than Overwatch, it isn't anywhere near as good (in my opinion obviously). And even so, it only has more content by a slim margin.

But yeah, if it wasn't for Overwatch's characters and tons and tons of marketing, I think it would have been chewed out for the lack of content and dismal unlock system (which is entirely cosmetic, sure, but way too grindy for what it is).

I couldn't agree more, there. I think it's a shitty system, especially with the way it's monetized. That's honestly enough that I would heavily consider not buying it just because of that. Luckily, I don't have to make that decision, because I wouldn't by a competitive multiplayer only game to begin with.

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Disclaimer: during/after the Beta, it was indeed EVERYWHERE

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, June 03, 2016, 02:48 (3099 days ago) @ cheapLEY

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A week and a half and I've already played over 40 hours

by Xenos @, Shores of Time, Friday, June 03, 2016, 12:40 (3099 days ago) @ Vortech

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It's just FUN!

by breitzen @, Kansas, Friday, June 03, 2016, 13:18 (3099 days ago) @ Vortech

Seriously. I don't think I've had this much fun with a multiplayer game ever. Halo and even Destiny have this "hardcore" feeling to them. Overwatch is just a joy to play. The shooting mechanics aren't as polished as Destiny or Halo on consoles, but it feels incredibly balanced. There's no stupid grind (unless vanity items are important to you) and the micro transactions are much like Sterling Treasure and Req Packs (Random items) so don't bother wasting your money on those. But the game is totally worth $60. It's true the maps/game types are small, but DLC is suppose to be free (as of a December statement I think). Each game is typically quick, but almost always close. 75% of my games are down to the wire.

+ fun unique characters
+ quick games
+ it doesn't suck to lose
+ free future content
+ no (real) grind

- few maps/game types
- shooting mechanics could be a little better (it just feels like it was made for PC)
- cosmetic unlocks are random (If I'm playing Mercy, give me more Mercy unlocks)

Here's a game we lost, but was awesome last stand:

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It's just FUN!

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Friday, June 03, 2016, 13:24 (3099 days ago) @ breitzen

Each game is typically quick, but almost always close. 75% of my games are down to the wire.

75% of the games are down too the wire? Sounds too sweaty. ;-P

</sarcastic dogcow>

I really enjoyed the couple hours I was able to play the beta. If there are enough ps4 peeps playing it I might just pick it up.

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12 bucks off on amazon

by Durandal, Friday, June 03, 2016, 14:40 (3099 days ago) @ breitzen

I have it, been loads of fun not worrying about loot or grinding, just playing matches with the different characters.

It's weird not being able to zoom, or choose your loadout and movement is a lot slower for most characters then Destiny, but still pretty fun. Feel free to look me up on Xbox if you need a team (I'm "The Miniboss").

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Also apparently it's a $40 game.

by breitzen @, Kansas, Friday, June 03, 2016, 15:33 (3099 days ago) @ Durandal

The base version is $40
The limited edition is $60 (just some extra digital goodies)
Collectors edition is $129 (physical goodies)

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The $40 version is only available for PC

by CyberKN ⌂ @, Oh no, Destiny 2 is bad, Friday, June 03, 2016, 15:38 (3099 days ago) @ breitzen

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That's weird. But good to know!

by breitzen @, Kansas, Friday, June 03, 2016, 16:02 (3099 days ago) @ CyberKN

Still worth $60 in my book!

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Not worth the $60 console price...

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Friday, June 03, 2016, 20:33 (3099 days ago) @ cheapLEY

... is how I feel about it, honestly. It's a ton of fun, but I can't recal

l ever seeing a game more limited in content than Overwatch.

Did you play Battlefront? I guess maybe it technically had more content than Overwatch, it isn't anywhere near as good (in my opinion obviously). And even so, it only has more content by a slim margin.


Battlefront has a ton of content by comparison: Solo missions, co-op Survival missions, A ton of gametypes over a dozen maps, and a steady stream of unlocks.

Overwatch has two-ish game modes across a dozen samey maps (some of which only appear in certain game modes, none of which you choose), and that's it.

We bought Battlefront when it was on sale for $30 (essentially paying $15 each), and we had fun with it, and didn't find it lacking. We have a free copy of Overwatch, and we can't bring ourselves to buy a second copy for $30...

*shrug*

Gearbox?

by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 09:40 (3098 days ago) @ Korny

given Gearbox's history of drowning us with quality post-launch content

Wait, what? I don't know Gearbox beyond Borderlands, Duke and Colonial Marines, but I thought general consensus was that while they drown you in content, only 1 or 2 pieces are actually good?

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Gearbox?

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 12:15 (3098 days ago) @ someotherguy

given Gearbox's history of drowning us with quality post-launch content


Wait, what? I don't know Gearbox beyond Borderlands, Duke and Colonial Marines, but I thought general consensus was that while they drown you in content, only 1 or 2 pieces are actually good?

No idea where you get your "general consensus", but I've never heard anything but praise for what's included in the Season passes that Gearbox does. The extra characters were great, and three of the four bonus campaigns in Borderlands 2 have received really high review scores (only the grind-based Hammerlock campaign was meh), and over half of the post-Season Pass content was a lot of fun, if ultimately enough to burn players out on the game.

Borderlands 1 DLC only got good reviews and reception.

To be fair, Colonial Marines did also get a ton of content (even a three/four-hour campaign add-on), but nothing that could salvage an already terrible game, so there's that...

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Borderlands is solid DLC wise

by ProbablyLast, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 12:46 (3098 days ago) @ someotherguy

BL1 2/4 of the DLCs are really, really good.
BL2 One of the characters are fantastic, the other is pretty good. All 4 major DLCs are worth a playthrough, and 3 are great. At least one of the HeadHunter DLCs are worth it.

The PreSequel's DLC is good from what I hear, but I can't play the game long enough to experience it.

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My experience was that Battleborn is: Crappy

by Kahzgul, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 20:24 (3098 days ago) @ CyberKN

Literally a poor translation of DotA style character progression jammed into an FPS framework with MMO style bosses. The beta was not fun at all, which is super disappointing because I was very, very excited for a new Gearbox IP.

Gearbox?

by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 23:08 (3098 days ago) @ Korny
edited by someotherguy, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 23:11

I dont remember BL1 especially well, but I could have sworn only one DLC was particularly good? Zombie Island was slow and fairky grindy, the Uderdome was literally just "horde mode: the DLC" (though I appreciated the vault expansion) and the Claptrap one was largely a one-note joke.

The additional character(s) in BL2 were great additions, but again the Torgue, Hammerlock and Captain Scarlet DLC were only really interesting for their "raid" bosses and new vehicles. The final DLc, Tiny Tina's dragon thingamajig was good though.

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I've heard everyone sucks on consoles.

by Funkmon @, Monday, June 06, 2016, 07:02 (3096 days ago) @ breitzen

So it might be worth the $20 price premium right there!

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Can confirm

by DiscipleN2k @, Edmond, OK, Monday, June 06, 2016, 14:23 (3096 days ago) @ Funkmon

As I 1) Play on console and 2) am terrible.

-Disciple

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Can confirm

by breitzen @, Kansas, Monday, June 06, 2016, 14:34 (3096 days ago) @ DiscipleN2k

lol. One of my main critiques is that is aiming system is so obviously built for PC. It does make you feel like you're horrible at aiming. It's why Tracer is so deadly, she's already so hard to hit. Probably why I perfer tank/support characters.

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Can confirm

by MacAddictXIV @, Seattle WA, Monday, June 06, 2016, 14:35 (3096 days ago) @ DiscipleN2k

As I 1) Play on console and 2) am terrible.

-Disciple

3) can confirm that the first 2 statements are correct

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Can confirm

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Monday, June 06, 2016, 14:51 (3096 days ago) @ breitzen

Engineer FTW!

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