It's a philosophical struggle (Destiny)

by Durandal, Sunday, August 14, 2016, 15:00 (3116 days ago) @ ZackDark

It is true that the Hive worship the idea of conflict being the end all, the final arbiter. Consider that the whole concept of the throne worlds is a cheat. Oryx contested another power and failed. By Hive and Darkness's argument, he is weaker and doesn't deserve to exist.

Yet the throne world allows him almost infinite chances to succeed. He can learn from his failure and keep coming back over and over until he finds success. That this throne world, and much of hive magic, is based on the intervention of the Darkness, and thus the Hive are it's petitioners, it's subjects, that cannot exist without it allowing them, is missed.

I've said in the /r/Destinylore that the Darkness uses essentially a weaponized meme here. The worms, and the Hive, are harmless to it because they have no power but what it gives them, yet they can use a fraction of it's power to wipe the universe clean of any species that might arise to oppose it.

That makes the hive, and most of the Darkness's followers tragic fools in a way. They are like communism's useful idiots, who believe they are this powerful holder of secret knowledge and are creating utopia but are disposable morons who will be first against the wall when the revolution no longer needs them.

Does the Darkness believe what it preached to the Worms, or what they revealed to the Hive? That we don't know. All we have is evidence that it's been active in the galaxy for some time, wiping species off the map.

My best guess is there is a bit of truth in each of the positions given in the "The Darkness" card.

"The Pujari Position describes the Darkness as a force with both physical and moral presence, an actualization of evil. Pujari art depicts the Darkness as a great storm, or as a change in conduct, a corruption that emerged from within and poisoned the Golden Age.

Saint-14's Position argues that the Darkness was an invading armada, an alien force of incredible - but tangible - power. Some adherents believe that this armada sprang from species rejected or discarded by the Traveler for their sins.

Ulan-Tan's Thesis considers the Darkness a necessary symmetry to the Traveler in a cosmic balance. In this view, the Traveler's goodness led it to sacrifice for others, and it is up to us to return this goodness by healing the Traveler.

The Monist Position, or the Deflationary Position, considers the Darkness as a technologically sophisticated force, perhaps a post-Singularity intelligence. Adherents invoke information theory or contend that the universe is a simulation, allowing advanced intelligence to gain weakly acausal powers by bending the rules.

The Acataleptic Clause claims that we are intrinsically unable to understand the Darkness. In many respects this belief parallels the Praxic Creed, which suggests that we should stop worrying about the nature of the Darkness and focus on resisting and defeating it.

Certain positions - often labeled heretical - imply that the Traveler itself triggered the Collapse, or that it knew the Darkness was coming for it and hoped to use the Solar System as a sacrifice or a proxy army. The Binary Star cult is one notable example."