What would Bungie do?

This fake tweet from Hello Games got me thinking… what would Bungie do?

Hello Games had a game that was not finished… it wasn't fun… they needed more time. But they released it anyway. But Bungie?

Both times, Bungie delayed their game. Halo 2 and Destiny. And we got fun games.

Just sayin'.

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Unless you have a car that is also a banana, which then the math is car + banana > car or banana. Given all the complaints about the OP quest, I've come to realize people don't like math :)

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Unless you have a car that is also a banana,

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Unless you have a car that is also a banana,

Why do I get the feeling she has a V8 under the hood?

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Unless you have a car that is also a banana,

Why do I get the feeling she has a V8 under the hood?

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This fake tweet from Hello Games got me thinking… what would Bungie do?

Hello Games had a game that was not finished… it wasn't fun… they needed more time. But they released it anyway. But Bungie?

Both times, Bungie delayed their game. Halo 2 and Destiny. And we got fun games.

Just sayin'.

Hello Games delayed their game as well. Several times. The final release was more than two years later than their original release plan.

Frankly, both Destiny and NMS could have used a few more delays as neither game was remotely finished when released.

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This fake tweet from Hello Games got me thinking… what would Bungie do?

Hello Games had a game that was not finished… it wasn't fun… they needed more time. But they released it anyway. But Bungie?

Both times, Bungie delayed their game. Halo 2 and Destiny. And we got fun games.

That's pretty revisionist.

Bungie wanted to delay Halo 2 another whole year and launch on the 360, but Peter had already tattooed himself. The game launched fun, but rough in spots and unfinished. With the continuing treadmill of ever-increasing visual fidelity and texture sizes, trying to hold a game of the same scale with the same features today to a similar schedule would likely have had even worse consequences.

We don't yet know, and may never, know the circumstances that compelled HG to release NMS in the state they did (or even to half-implement a lot of the features that were included, and to announce others that never were and still aren't implemented. Despite being independent it is possible that HG felt at a disadvantage in their relationship with Sony, but was compelled to work with them to finish the game (hence the emphasis on the PS4 version).

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If you can provide a source for wanting Halo 2 to be on the 360, I would like that. I spoke directly with Ed Fries who said that Jason only ever asked for another year, and that was in 2003. I of course want to do my due diligence here :-)

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If you can provide a source for wanting Halo 2 to be on the 360, I would like that. I spoke directly with Ed Fries who said that Jason only ever asked for another year, and that was in 2003. I of course want to do my due diligence here :-)

I don't need one.

If they had another year, they'd be launching in November 2005, the same month the Xbox 360 launched.

It would have been ridiculous to launch such a high profile system-selling game on the old platform the same month you launch the new version, so granting them another year to finish the game pretty much automatically also requiring them to port to 360.

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If you can provide a source for wanting Halo 2 to be on the 360, I would like that. I spoke directly with Ed Fries who said that Jason only ever asked for another year, and that was in 2003. I of course want to do my due diligence here :-)

I don't need one.

If they had another year, they'd be launching in November 2005, the same month the Xbox 360 launched.

It would have been ridiculous to launch such a high profile system-selling game on the old platform the same month you launch the new version, so granting them another year to finish the game pretty much automatically also requiring them to port to 360.

That would be news to me. Short version:

What was planned to happen was Halo 2 in 2003, then Halo 3 near the 360 launch.

2003 comes. Jason goes to Ed and asks for another year. Ed trusts Bungie and goes to MS. MS says no way, Halo 2 is coming out in 2003. Ed threatens to quit if they don't let Bungie make Halo 2 great. MS caves. Halo 2 is a huge success and from then on Bungie is essentially untouchable.

At no time was Halo 2 ever to be for 360.

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If you can provide a source for wanting Halo 2 to be on the 360, I would like that. I spoke directly with Ed Fries who said that Jason only ever asked for another year, and that was in 2003. I of course want to do my due diligence here :-)

I don't need one.

If they had another year, they'd be launching in November 2005, the same month the Xbox 360 launched.

It would have been ridiculous to launch such a high profile system-selling game on the old platform the same month you launch the new version, so granting them another year to finish the game pretty much automatically also requiring them to port to 360.

That would be news to me. Short version:

What was planned to happen was Halo 2 in 2003, then Halo 3 near the 360 launch.

2003 comes. Jason goes to Ed and asks for another year. Ed trusts Bungie and goes to MS. MS says no way, Halo 2 is coming out in 2003. Ed threatens to quit if they don't let Bungie make Halo 2 great. MS caves. Halo 2 is a huge success and from then on Bungie is essentially untouchable.

At no time was Halo 2 ever to be for 360.

Let me amend my statement slightly.

Bungie wanted to release in 2004.

Releasing in 2004, to any reasonable person inside or outside of the industry, necessarily would mean retooling for 360 because of how moronic it would look to release such a high profile game, one highly identified with your platform, with a massive attach rate, that sells your system, on the old version of that same console the same month the new one launches. It would be tantamount to telling people NOT to buy a 360 at launch. The only possible way out would be to do what Destiny did-- launch on both consoles with incentives for picking the new one.

MS knew the choice was either 2003 on Xbox, or 2004 on Xbox 360. They chose the former. Whether Bungie was ever offered that they could have their delay IF they launched on 360 instead, I have no idea. MS might have had their own reasons (aside from wanting Halo 2 to launch in 2003) for putting in on Xbox and not on 360, I don't know. They may never have entertained the thought for one second.

My amended assertion should have been that if MS had seriously considered acceding to Bungie's request to delay one year, it would be logical to assume this would include making a version for 360 either instead of, or in addition to, the Xbox version, because of the very real potential for having a depressing effect on Xbox 360 launch sales.

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The Xbox 360 launched an entire year after Halo 2 dude. Not the same month. It came out in 2005. Halo 2 came out in 2004.

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You know what, though? I actually did have a lot of fun playing that game. Was part of it just the thought that I was finally playing this mythical thing? Possibly. But I think it's an enjoyable game.

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