Don't get me wrong. (Gaming)
Horizon? I can think of a couple of games with the name Horizon in them? Which game are you talking about?
Horizon: Zero Dawn on Playstation.
Anyway, I kinda wonder now what you think is and isn't an RPG? From what you've said it kinda feels like an RPG is any game that give you the ability to hang yourself by misassigning upgrade points. :p
I'm honestly not sure exactly how I'd define it. I just think the term has become much more fluid and lose than perhaps it should have. The Witcher 3 is a perfect example. Huge, open world RPG. But the leveling system and abilities are bad and barely worth screwing with.
Honestly, I think the ability to hang yourself by misassigning upgrade points speaks quite a bit towards what I consider real RPGs. Your character is drastically different at the end of the game from the beginning. I wouldn't necessarily say that's true of Mass Effect 2 or 3.
I think the difference for me comes in what you're actually leveling. In an RPG (Morrowind) you're upgrading your character through skills (Sneak, Long Blade, Mercantile, Speechcraft, Acrobatics, Short Blade, Destruction, Alchemy, etc). Uprgrading each of those skills allows you to use better and better gear (or weapons or spells or potions or whatever) as you go along. In Mass Effect 2 and 3, I don't think you're leveling up a character in quite the same way--instead, you're leveling up particular abilities and making those specific abilities better.
It's an odd, specific distinction to make, I'll admit, and I'm genuinely struggling to articulate the difference. All I can say is that it makes sense in my head.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 feel far more like action games with a leveling system tacked, rather than like RPGs from the ground up.
Interestingly, I believe Andromeda shifts back to individual power cooldowns. But I think maybe the time pausing to select a power is gone and you might even be limited to three active powers at any given time but with the ability to swap them out as needed and without any real class restrictions.
That all sounds fantastic. Like I said, I'm genuinely excited for Andromeda. Probably the most excited I've been for a video game since Destiny. I love me some Mass Effect.
Complete thread:
- Mass Effect Andromeda combat gameplay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-17, 18:05
- MASSIVE EXCITE -
stabbim,
2017-02-17, 18:51
- MASSIVE EXCITE - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-17, 18:52
- *MASS EXCITE - Xenos, 2017-02-17, 20:33
- *squeals* - ZackDark, 2017-02-17, 19:31
- Can't wait. - marmot 1333, 2017-02-17, 20:08
- So...uh. I've gone SUPERDARK. Does... it really look good? -
INSANEdrive,
2017-02-18, 02:12
- (Come on INSANEdrive. Be strong. Don't click. ._. Ahhh!) -
INSANEdrive,
2017-02-18, 02:13
- Yes. It looks very good. Rest easy :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-18, 02:23
- Vague descriptions for you - Xenos, 2017-02-18, 13:10
- (Come on INSANEdrive. Be strong. Don't click. ._. Ahhh!) -
INSANEdrive,
2017-02-18, 02:13
- Mass Effect Andromeda combat gameplay -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-18, 15:14
- no no no no no NO ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-18, 15:32
- no no no no no NO ;) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-18, 16:25
- no no no no no NO ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-18, 16:33
- no no no no no NO ;) - Cody Miller, 2017-02-18, 17:34
- no no no no no NO ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-18, 16:33
- no no no no no NO ;) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-18, 16:25
- no no no no no NO ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-18, 15:32
- So about this Mass Effect series... -
Oholiab,
2017-02-19, 01:55
- So about this Mass Effect series... -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 02:14
- Seconded ^^ - Kahzgul, 2017-02-19, 16:35
- So about this Mass Effect series... -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 02:14
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
BeardFade,
2017-02-19, 03:02
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-19, 10:28
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-19, 12:43
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Korny,
2017-02-19, 13:41
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 15:12
- Don't get me wrong. -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-19, 21:05
- Don't get me wrong. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 21:39
- Don't get me wrong. -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-19, 21:54
- Don't get me wrong. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 23:03
- Don't get me wrong. -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-20, 00:30
- Don't get me wrong. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-20, 01:17
- Don't get me wrong. - stabbim, 2017-02-22, 13:10
- Don't get me wrong. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-20, 01:17
- Don't get me wrong. -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-20, 00:30
- Don't get me wrong. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 23:03
- Don't get me wrong. -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-19, 21:54
- Don't get me wrong. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 21:39
- The Mass Wars Halo Effect - narcogen, 2017-02-20, 01:46
- Don't get me wrong. -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-19, 21:05
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-19, 15:12
- That Gameplay Worries Me... - cheapLEY, 2017-02-19, 20:53
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Korny,
2017-02-19, 13:41
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-19, 12:43
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-19, 16:44
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
BeardFade,
2017-02-20, 02:14
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-20, 07:30
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2017-02-21, 20:04
- ME3 brawler though -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-22, 07:01
- ME3 brawler though -
SonofMacPhisto,
2017-02-23, 15:57
- ME3 brawler though - Kahzgul, 2017-02-24, 06:31
- ME3 brawler though -
SonofMacPhisto,
2017-02-23, 15:57
- ME3 brawler though -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-22, 07:01
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2017-02-21, 20:04
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-20, 07:30
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
BeardFade,
2017-02-20, 02:14
- Worry not. Pausing time appears to be in. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-23, 12:07
- Worry not. Pausing time appears to be in. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-23, 14:40
- Also blind fire! - Kahzgul, 2017-02-24, 18:18
- Worry not. Pausing time appears to be in. -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-23, 14:40
- That Gameplay Worries Me... -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-19, 10:28
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-20, 16:56
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-20, 17:55
- Agreed. - Ragashingo, 2017-02-20, 18:04
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know - Kahzgul, 2017-02-20, 19:14
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-20, 18:02
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-20, 20:04
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-20, 21:50
- Yup. - Kahzgul, 2017-02-21, 03:42
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-20, 21:50
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-20, 20:04
- Tempering expectations / what we actually know -
cheapLEY,
2017-02-20, 17:55
- MASSIVE EXCITE -
stabbim,
2017-02-17, 18:51